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Post by robertlion on Feb 9, 2013 21:35:53 GMT -5
Just summarizing our threads into one. Feel free to start from here! This should be a wild 30 days--literally 30 days. If Coach Good at least is not fired by March 9 (day after the WCC Tournament concludes), then we have some big problems.
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Post by hungrylion on Feb 9, 2013 22:00:40 GMT -5
went to the waves game. again, the team looks lost out there, went to the girls game today, taked about being outclassed. the whole program is being outclassed. wow. hey glg where you its that time again
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Post by LIONS90045 on Feb 10, 2013 11:56:14 GMT -5
hungry - I have a strong suspicion that glg is already here under his new alias!
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Post by slblions08 on Feb 10, 2013 13:08:26 GMT -5
Lol. When did Lane Bive enter the discussion? GLG is not very good at hiding identity. Personally lane Bove is important to the growth if diversity on campus...for more than just sports is she critical. Husk and Good can go. You just have an axe to grind
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Post by ADG'99 on Feb 10, 2013 15:11:37 GMT -5
Lol. When did Lane Bive enter the discussion? GLG is not very good at hiding identity. Personally lane Bove is important to the growth if diversity on campus...for more than just sports is she critical. Husk and Good can go. You just have an axe to grind You don't have to be into conspiracy theories to believe that's it's quite a coincidence that somebody just became a member in February 2013, and that person happens to be pushing for the firing of Bove. I don't know much about Ms. Bove, but it seems kind of silly to go that far up the chain. Does the terrible coach deserve to get fired not have his contract renewed? Absolutely. Does the Athletic Director who hired the last 4 terrible coaches deserve to be reassigned? Most likely. Does his boss need to be let go? Seems like a stretch. Lawton approved of Aggers/Bayno/Good, but he was also one of the best leaders the University ever had, should he have been fired?
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Post by robertlion on Feb 15, 2013 3:51:24 GMT -5
AD Husak has definitely waited too long. Time to can him too. Another loss to Pepperdine
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Post by mds815 on Feb 15, 2013 11:30:22 GMT -5
What a joke. I will not support this program until the administration proves that they are committed to building a competitive program.
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Post by golions on Feb 15, 2013 14:37:05 GMT -5
My season tickets have gone unused. It isn't even worth the 10 minute drive from my home in El Segundo.
A total (and needed) housecleaning of the athletic department is in order.
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Post by lion90254 on Mar 1, 2013 14:01:24 GMT -5
Sure Bove has done a decent job at managing her direct reports (aside from Husak and a few others). At this point however, I wholeheartedly disagree with the sentiment that she is 'vital' to the school and its diversity. That is an unfounded statement in my opinion, and I would like for someone to expand on it please. If she shows this level of incompetence with our most important student program on campus, God only knows the state of affairs in other realms, athletics or otherwise.
Recently, Bove's job has become too much for her, everything is now a task of sweeping things under the rug. Its become, whatever it takes to save her ass for one more year. This may work for things like Judicial Affairs, University Giving or Student Diversity, but not Athletics where everyone is watching.
Bove is lost when it comes to collegiate athletics. I understand giving Max a freebie after being named WCC COTY. However, over the last 5 years, the climate of NCAA basketball has changed so rapidly that even guys like Ben Howland will be looking for a job after this season.
The blueprint for success of a mid-major program was outlined by Gonzaga, now they are No. 1 in the country. Butler figured it out, so did Virginia Commonwealth and many others... We have given our admin almost two decades to figure it out and to catch up, and we haven't even come close.
With all this being said, I know Dr. Bove has done a lot for the school and she HAS BEEN recognized for this. But, its time for serious change.
Lady Dictator, its time for you to step down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2013 23:52:15 GMT -5
Our Athletics administration has gone from laughing and turning a deaf ear on the crazy fans to posting pure and utter crap like this: www.lmulions.com/ot/Heart-of-a-Lion.htmlApparently, you're not allowed to act like a fan. That would definitely explain why Roar has disappeared. Oh yes - that and the fact that Athletics is now in control of it. In talking with several alumni, I've come to the realization that the current Athletics admin has completely alienated its alumni. People should really consider dropping their donations to send a message. I already have, and I know other people who have as well. However, the people working with the big donors see nothing wrong in Husak's leadership - believe me. I have asked. The unfortunate reality is that we can't raise a big enough stir just by posting our disdain on here. GLG was right, sadly enough. We really need to get more powerful people involved in this. I believe someone once told me that even Al Gersten doesn't like what our basketball program has become.
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Post by slblions08 on Mar 3, 2013 0:13:04 GMT -5
My time at LMU told me that unless you have a viable plan, they're not big into change. When I think about Bove's contribution to student diversity, it does come with the caveat that it took many other meetings and discussions with people in order to get talks with Lane Bove to make some changes that would better include the diverse interests of the student body.
But reading this move towards censorship of the fan base is ridiculous. Going as far as monitoring what fans can say not just towards our own team but the other is also ridiculous. I mean, Duke is a better academic institution than LMU and is private and is snobby up the ass, but their fans say some of the worst things out there.
And just taking over the fan experience has to be worst idea. Obviously this has to do with drinking and the worry that kids will do something crazy, but call me crazy if I think that making mistakes and growing up is part of the collegiate process. And so is having raving excited fans. It's not like the product on the floor is going to bring people out.
But what can a little 'ole message board poster like myself do? I'm an alum but live off a teacher salary. We can rally people together and try to do sign a petition or create a plan, but unless I'm paying the new coach's salary I don't think anybody will listen.
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Post by ontheprowl on Mar 3, 2013 2:08:16 GMT -5
They have had these new Heart of a Lion guidelines since the 2008-2009 season i believe. Came along with those great tailgating events.... waahoooo LMU athletics.
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Post by lion90254 on Mar 4, 2013 16:50:40 GMT -5
I understand what took place in the past as far as diversity goes and how LB played a critical role. I feel like she is a very competent leader of most SA Division offices/programs, aside from Athletics. However to extrapolate that Bove is vital to the university's diversity going forward is a bit of a stretch, IMO.
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Post by lion90254 on Mar 4, 2013 17:40:29 GMT -5
I don't know much about Ms. Bove, but it seems kind of silly to go that far up the chain. Does the terrible coach deserve to not have his contract renewed? Absolutely. Does the Athletic Director who hired the last 4 terrible coaches deserve to be reassigned? Most likely. Does his boss need to be let go? Seems like a stretch. Lawton approved of Aggers/Bayno/Good, but he was also one of the best leaders the University ever had, should he have been fired? Bove must personally sign off on all hirings in the entire division of Student Affairs. She definitely has the final say. I know she takes the men's basketball program hirings very very seriously and devotes a lot of her time to the Mens BBall program in general. Husak can't and won't act without coming to a mutual agreement with LB. They both spend a ton of time interviewing and discussing together before making Men's Basketball HC decisions. As far as I know, LB has been the final approver of Good, Bayno, Aggers, etc. I am not aware of any instance in recent history that the University President has stepped in front of LB on an Athletic decision. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the President doesn't even have a say in the matter, other than to ultimately terminate the SVPSA. I think the most valid argument that most make is that Bove has done a lot of good for other programs in the SA division, and therefore her final judgment as SVPSA shouldn't be based solely on one athletic program's performance. This seems fair and valid, IMO. However, maybe its time for her to renege a bit on her saying power over Athletic decisions? Or perhaps maybe she just needs more guidance in athletic related decisions and therefore Husak is the one that needs to be terminated? Either way, I think its fair to say Bove has too much power.
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Post by robertlion on Mar 13, 2013 0:17:38 GMT -5
If Good is not fired, then Husak needs to go. The mini run in the WCC tournament shows the following: 1) LMU has better talent than their record showed (an incoming coach would love to have that) 2) Our players were not motivated properly be the coaching staff during the season 3) 2 wins in that tournament were give mes in a sense that one was a play-in game that is always winnable. The next game was winnable too. If you take a step back...this mini run may sound good but it is just noise.
Fire GOOD now, HUSAK!
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