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Post by slblions08 on Mar 11, 2016 17:52:58 GMT -5
Wasn't Lavin Dunlap's boss at St. John? In that case isn't he just a better? CMD?
That would increase the profile of the WCC but hurt our chances
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Post by longtimelionfan on Mar 12, 2016 20:54:08 GMT -5
I don't think the folks and fans of St. John's view or viewed it that way. I recall their Board stating that SJU and LMU should play after Mike got the job so SJU could recruit California except the opinion was that Dunlap would out coach Lavin. Perhaps we shall see that in action. I think having Lavin at USF would be beneficial for the WCC since Lavin has so many television connections.
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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on Mar 12, 2016 22:14:39 GMT -5
Lavin can recruit, but X's and O's were never his forte.
Cartwright is turning 60, so if he wanted one last chance to coach this could be it.
At SCU, if they wanted to go the alum route (like LMU and USD) maybe they will wait for Rambis. He has never had much success in the NBA but they may want him.
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Post by lmulionsroar on Mar 14, 2016 22:37:07 GMT -5
Randy Bennett and Russ Turner are on the list for the Stanford job that just opened.
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Post by lmu2015 on Mar 15, 2016 9:17:30 GMT -5
Saint Marys was arguably the worst team in the country the year before Bennett took over, him leaving would really hurt the conference as I would bet that in 4 or 5 years Saint Marys would regress to the level of the rest of the league (excluding Gonzaga and BYU). Hopefully if he considers it Saint Marys can renegotiate and keep him, I don't know what his salary is but he has been worth every penny and more. Russ Turner on the other hand... Anything that could hinder UCI's recruiting and success is beneficial to us, I hope he gets it
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Post by longtimelionfan on Mar 15, 2016 9:40:22 GMT -5
Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News, who is pretty connected to Stanford, mentioned both Bennett and Turner yesterday. He discounted Bennett because Stanford's admission standards would hinder the Aussie pipeline and Bennett's NCAA transgression. Turner is a former Montgomery assistant.
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Post by pumpfake on Mar 15, 2016 13:53:21 GMT -5
Portland has fired Eric Reveno. CMD rapidly becoming an elder statesman in the WCC.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 15:10:32 GMT -5
This is already turned into quite a crazy off season.
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Post by slblions08 on Mar 15, 2016 16:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by lmu2015 on Mar 15, 2016 17:30:13 GMT -5
I was not aware Few made those comments, but I have to agree with him. Football and Basketball are the money makers who support the other sports, and in the WCC, without football, Basketball is #1. While I was a student at LMU I definitely felt as if the school, both students and faculty, didn't understand the potential upside of having a good basketball program. Being top 25 in baseball, soccer, volleyball, softball, waterpolo, swimming etc. is awesome, but it will never be anything like being top 25 in basketball for football. ope.ed.gov is a great website to see revenue and expenses for each schools sports teams. If you search through the website, you may notice that many schools, such as LMU, have their sports revenue = expenses. This is because the school finds ways to cover the cost (students tuition) and add that as revenue, that being said the LMUs Mens Basketball team revenue and expenses for 2015 were both $3,406,666. These expenses include recruiting, travel, food for players, coaches salary (a little over a million for LMU), summer housing and meals for players, and everything in between. Gonzaga had expenses of $7,362,669 (higher due to coaching salaries, traveling, facilities) and revenues of $12,185,320. LMU's basketball team is subsidized by the school, and Gonzaga's made the school $5 million in profit. That gives the school a lot of money for other things, such as new science buildings, better student facilities, teacher salaries, and other things that all benefit the entire school. (I didn't even include the increase of school spirit, happier students, possibility of an increase in applicants which leads to higher admission standards and better students) The point is having a good basketball team is worth the investment, and Few is right, the rest of the WCC needs to catch up. I don't know exactly what our actual revenue was, but I'm fairly certain ticket sales didn't contribute too much, and I can assume most of it comes from TV contracts, which we only get because of schools like Saint Marys and Gonzaga. Below is a list of some other schools with their revenue and expenses for basketball. BYU: $6,344,666 for Revenue and Expenses Saint Marys: $2,672,354 for Revenue and Expenses (seems suspiciously low) Butler: $4,518,512 for both San Diego State: Expense is $5,196,326 and Revenue is $5,523,058 Duke: Expense is $19,860,851 and Revenue is $33,772,145 Kentucky: Exp is $20,009,991 and Rev. is $24,684,543 UCLA: Exp is $8,256,449 and Rev.is $12,228,209 Pepperdine: $2,599,492 for both The following is the link to type in the school and see their numbers if anyone is interested. ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx
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Post by lmulionsroar on Mar 15, 2016 22:26:12 GMT -5
Damon Stoudamire Is expected to accept the Pacific job. Very good hire.
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Post by slblions08 on Mar 16, 2016 1:07:42 GMT -5
Great research LMU2015! I've always wondered about those costs. LMU is already an attractive destination...but I've always thought of it as a niche attraction. I volunteer with one of the alumni groups on campus and just this past weekend read some scholarship application essays from students from all over the country such as Texas and Florida when we usually did not get those kind of applicants for this scholarship before. LMU's name is going national, however with a good basketball team you obviously get much more notoriety. It was Burcham's goal to make LMU a school like a Marquette or Georgetown but alas he left before making that happen. I always wonder what a school like LMU is doing publicity wise to get their name out. I mean I know the law school is a different campus and such, but I mean with the people versus OJ thing I'd be repping Johnnie Cochran and Robert Shapiro pretty hard right now. That's what we need as a basketball program. Watching Guru for Go is getting a bit old. LMU really missed an opportunity to make a splashy hire that matched where the university was going. Yes Dunlap did get us a feature on Grantland because he was a former NBA coach going to a small mid major, but now he pretty much just feels like retread coach who just landed at a place where they thought they couldn't get anyone better and the AD didn't want to do a big search. Not sure if Dunlap has inspired a follow-up article. This Damon Stoudamire hiring is really interesting and we'll see how San Francisco, Portland and Santa Clara go. "mighty mouse" interned as an assistant on Josh Pastner's staff along with Luke Walton in Memphis during the 2011 NBA lockout. espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/7022364/damon-stoudamire-luke-walton-bring-star-power-memphis-tigers-recruiting-effort-college-basketballAnyhow, what's crazy is that Dunlap is now officially a WCC veteran. Only Few, Bennett, Wilson, Rose and he survived the offseason. LMU reeaallly has no excuse to be top 5 now. He'll be in year 3 with a full CMD cast and nobody left over from the Good era, with a team loaded with guys 21 and 23 years old.
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Post by lmulionsroar on Mar 16, 2016 15:55:09 GMT -5
Stoudamire's press conference was streamed online. He certainly has his work cut out for him at Pacific, but he seems to be the right guy for the job. Seems to be very hungry and humble. It will be interesting to see the level of recruit he will be able to bring to Stockton.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Mar 16, 2016 21:20:13 GMT -5
Arena capacities:
Zags - 6000 BYU - 21000 LMU - 4200
Seating capacity matters as noted above but I agree the Lions are not getting the attendance or revenue to match the leading teams. Plus, most attendees come after the first half is well under way, or later. (Gratituous remark.) Are these faculty or associates attending at discounted prices? Re the Student section - half the seating in the Pavillion - is usually only half occupied at best but generates no revenue. Perhaps, LMU can offer seating on the student side to the public to get some $$? Why not?
Assuming $$ is the goal to support the program, which is Few's point.
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Post by lmulionsroar on Mar 21, 2016 17:07:08 GMT -5
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