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Post by golions on Mar 12, 2008 19:36:55 GMT -5
I must say that I had really high hopes for the program when Rodney was hired.
It's sad to see that Rodney has been let go, but it's the right move.
I hope Husak will be shown the door soon.
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Post by LMUpepbander on Mar 12, 2008 19:38:37 GMT -5
With Husak going back on his statements to the Times, it almost seems like there was a "he goes or you go" ultimatum sent. Then again, with Husak avoiding the alumni functions down in SD, he might be gone as well, only staying around until a coach is found. Only time will tell though.
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Post by smc4 on Mar 12, 2008 19:52:13 GMT -5
I think he will be on a tight leash. I agree that higher ups may have moved his hand.
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Post by lionspride on Mar 12, 2008 20:38:36 GMT -5
Well, well, well....it looks like the letter writing campaign hit home and Lawton delivered. I think Lawton had a talk with Elena Bove, SVP of Student Affairs, who oversees Athletics among other student area departments. Bove got Lawton's message across to Husak and Husak is worried about his own job. He had to act. I just want to know where they are getting the cash to pull this off. I give the administration all the credit in the world on this, but that credit is temporary. Full credit will be extended when they have announced a replacement. It better be a very experienced, big name that costs over $350,000 = $400,000. Few is making $400,000. We need to make a statement here.
Oh, I just have to throw this one in for all those on this board who are not a fan of mine and think I do not know anything about basketball. LIONSPRIDE brought his "A" game to this board and followed through with a couple of letters to the administration. Everything I say is based on facts and circumstances when talking with current players, their parents, and LMU administration (Lawton and the AD). For those of you like lmutex, Dead3man, alert2, and others that excuse my postings as ridiculous or "all fluff and no stuff", think again and recognize. I apologize to the others on this board for the boasting but these guys took big time swipes at me and I continued to take it. In the end, I was DEADon.
Thanks to ironlion for the shout out of my wish coming true. However, the wish is not complete. Husak and and the administration needs to come through with a big name. They have already made a huge commitment (eating 2 years of RT's contract). Let's don't half@ss it. Let's get it right. Do it once and do it right this time. Lawton listened, Lawton delivered (the cash), and Lawton is serious about winning. I hope Husak can make it happen now that he has the cash. No excuses.
Lost in this is Rodney Tention. The guy was very honorable and is a nice guy (2 times that I have spoken directly with him). His recruiting strategy was the down fall and his player rotations this year never stopped. I wish Rodney and his family the best. I am hopeful, that Rodney will definitely land on his feet. Maybe he even goes back to UofA with Lute as an assistant. Who knows, maybe Gore-Man at USF hires him (I sincerely doubt it, but anything is possible!).
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Post by greendoberman on Mar 12, 2008 20:44:57 GMT -5
I do not think the importance of hiring a "big name" is nearly as important as hiring the right guy that can get LMU back on track. It could be Howdy-Doody for all we care, as long as we progress to a winning record and make it back to the NCAA tournament.
Regardless of who it is, we won't really be able to make a fair assessment for a few years anway.
Simply put, we want someone to "restore the roar".
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Post by lionspride on Mar 12, 2008 20:49:26 GMT -5
In HUSAK's words (just released e-mail to the boosters)
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This is a special message for our important LMU Athletics and LionsFund donors, fans, and friends.
Today I announced that Rodney Tention has resigned as the LMU Head Men's Basketball Coach. Change is always disruptive and impacts the lives of so many people. It is particularly unsettling and difficult when there are good people involved. I would like to thank Rodney Tention and his staff for his commitment and outstanding efforts. We wish them the very best.
We will also begin the process for searching for our next head coach. In this uncertain time, it becomes important to reaffirm values and establish the expectations of our athletics program. Our program strives to do three things - win championships, graduate our athletes and ensure that through their Lion experience they become better people. I don't feel that these three goals should be mutually exclusive and that a high level of expectation should be the standard. After all, for many of you it is the reason that you support our institution and the Athletics program, and are proud to be a Lion and part of the LMU Athletics team.
We have had great success in the past and that success will continue to grow. My commitment to you is to establish the vision of what is possible and form a team of people who are capable of executing a plan so that vision becomes a reality. In the end, winning championships, graduating our athletes and watching them grow into adulthood is something we all can be proud in participating and supporting. I thank you for that support and I hope that you know it is never taken for granted.
Thank you for all your support and as always...
Go Lions!
Bill Husak, Director of Athletics
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Post by lionspride on Mar 12, 2008 20:53:42 GMT -5
In HUSAK's words (just released e-mail to the boosters) ________________________________________________ This is a special message for our important LMU Athletics and LionsFund donors, fans, and friends. Today I announced that Rodney Tention has resigned as the LMU Head Men's Basketball Coach. Change is always disruptive and impacts the lives of so many people. It is particularly unsettling and difficult when there are good people involved. I would like to thank Rodney Tention and his staff for his commitment and outstanding efforts. We wish them the very best. We will also begin the process for searching for our next head coach. In this uncertain time, it becomes important to reaffirm values and establish the expectations of our athletics program. Our program strives to do three things - win championships, graduate our athletes and ensure that through their Lion experience they become better people. I don't feel that these three goals should be mutually exclusive and that a high level of expectation should be the standard. After all, for many of you it is the reason that you support our institution and the Athletics program, and are proud to be a Lion and part of the LMU Athletics team. We have had great success in the past and that success will continue to grow. My commitment to you is to establish the vision of what is possible and form a team of people who are capable of executing a plan so that vision becomes a reality. In the end, winning championships, graduating our athletes and watching them grow into adulthood is something we all can be proud in participating and supporting. I thank you for that support and I hope that you know it is never taken for granted. Thank you for all your support and as always... Go Lions! Bill Husak, Director of Athletics Frankly, Husak is all over the map with his previous release to the boosters and now this one. He was trying to explain what time of basketball program he was building and how we go about doing that at LMU. Now he is singing a different tune one month later. Nothing has changed in one month.....except that the administration has talked to him and he knows his job is on the line. If Husak picks poorly on this next coach, he will be out with that coach within 2 years. |
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Post by lionspride on Mar 12, 2008 20:55:42 GMT -5
I do not think the importance of hiring a "big name" is nearly as important as hiring the right guy that can get LMU back on track. It could be Howdy-Doody for all we care, as long as we progress to a winning record and make it back to the NCAA tournament. Regardless of who it is, we won't really be able to make a fair assessment for a few years anway. Simply put, we want someone to "restore the roar". Disagree with you on this greendoberman. You can make an assessment of a coach within 12-18 months. Besides, on day 1 we can look at the resume and make solid calculated assumptions. With Rodney, there was no resume. It was a risk. Not a calculated risk. He was completely unproven as a head coach. |
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Post by raynman10 on Mar 12, 2008 21:19:02 GMT -5
This took guts on Dr. Husak's part. I believe that in order to develop the type of program LMU yearns for the program must pick a candidate and stay with him. Of course it has to be the right candidate and only time will tell. I personally believe that RT was not that person. That's why it took guts to fire him after 3 years. I support Dr. Husak in his search to find that person and hope the best for LMU going forward. I especially feel for the kids as now they are the former coaches choices. The new coach will have his own recruits. Our son played 3 years with Steve Aggers and 1 with RT.
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Post by lmu on Mar 12, 2008 21:27:46 GMT -5
And who went through 4 coaches under his supervision? Why is Husak allowed to stay? If RT is only given 3 years, Husak's 10-year tenure should come to an end too.
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Post by dead3man on Mar 12, 2008 22:35:45 GMT -5
Well, well, well....it looks like the letter writing campaign hit home and Lawton delivered. I think Lawton had a talk with Elena Bove, SVP of Student Affairs, who oversees Athletics among other student area departments. Bove got Lawton's message across to Husak and Husak is worried about his own job. He had to act. I just want to know where they are getting the cash to pull this off. I give the administration all the credit in the world on this, but that credit is temporary. Full credit will be extended when they have announced a replacement. It better be a very experienced, big name that costs over $350,000 = $400,000. Few is making $400,000. We need to make a statement here. Oh, I just have to throw this one in for all those on this board who are not a fan of mine and think I do not know anything about basketball. LIONSPRIDE brought his "A" game to this board and followed through with a couple of letters to the administration. Everything I say is based on facts and circumstances when talking with current players, their parents, and LMU administration (Lawton and the AD). For those of you like lmutex, Dead3man, alert2, and others that excuse my postings as ridiculous or "all fluff and no stuff", think again and recognize. I apologize to the others on this board for the boasting but these guys took big time swipes at me and I continued to take it. In the end, I was DEADon. Thanks to ironlion for the shout out of my wish coming true. However, the wish is not complete. Husak and and the administration needs to come through with a big name. They have already made a huge commitment (eating 2 years of RT's contract). Let's don't half@ss it. Let's get it right. Do it once and do it right this time. Lawton listened, Lawton delivered (the cash), and Lawton is serious about winning. I hope Husak can make it happen now that he has the cash. No excuses. Lionspride you may have been Deadon but I don't think as a fan, parent or supporter of this program this is where I needed to be dragged in and displaying any dirty or clean laundry. That's what I refused to be part of. Now we need to look towards the future and see what happens. If this is your way of voicing your thoughts good for you and who am I to judge you but I cannot be drug or dragged into this type of of activity. The difference is this is not my life but the life of a kid, young man, player of the LMU basketball team. I'm grown and over the hill so no place for me to Judge when you start discussion peoples livelyhood etc... If this is what toots your horn, great but I'm sorry for RT but also look forward to the future. Lost in this is Rodney Tention. The guy was very honorable and is a nice guy (2 times that I have spoken directly with him). His recruiting strategy was the down fall and his player rotations this year never stopped. I wish Rodney and his family the best. I am hopeful, that Rodney will definitely land on his feet. Maybe he even goes back to UofA with Lute as an assistant. Who knows, maybe Gore-Man at USF hires him (I sincerely doubt it, but anything is possible!). |
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Post by dead3man on Mar 12, 2008 22:36:46 GMT -5
Well, well, well....it looks like the letter writing campaign hit home and Lawton delivered. I think Lawton had a talk with Elena Bove, SVP of Student Affairs, who oversees Athletics among other student area departments. Bove got Lawton's message across to Husak and Husak is worried about his own job. He had to act. I just want to know where they are getting the cash to pull this off. I give the administration all the credit in the world on this, but that credit is temporary. Full credit will be extended when they have announced a replacement. It better be a very experienced, big name that costs over $350,000 = $400,000. Few is making $400,000. We need to make a statement here. Oh, I just have to throw this one in for all those on this board who are not a fan of mine and think I do not know anything about basketball. LIONSPRIDE brought his "A" game to this board and followed through with a couple of letters to the administration. Everything I say is based on facts and circumstances when talking with current players, their parents, and LMU administration (Lawton and the AD). For those of you like lmutex, Dead3man, alert2, and others that excuse my postings as ridiculous or "all fluff and no stuff", think again and recognize. I apologize to the others on this board for the boasting but these guys took big time swipes at me and I continued to take it. In the end, I was DEADon. Thanks to ironlion for the shout out of my wish coming true. However, the wish is not complete. Husak and and the administration needs to come through with a big name. They have already made a huge commitment (eating 2 years of RT's contract). Let's don't half@ss it. Let's get it right. Do it once and do it right this time. Lawton listened, Lawton delivered (the cash), and Lawton is serious about winning. I hope Husak can make it happen now that he has the cash. No excuses. Lost in this is Rodney Tention. The guy was very honorable and is a nice guy (2 times that I have spoken directly with him). His recruiting strategy was the down fall and his player rotations this year never stopped. I wish Rodney and his family the best. I am hopeful, that Rodney will definitely land on his feet. Maybe he even goes back to UofA with Lute as an assistant. Who knows, maybe Gore-Man at USF hires him (I sincerely doubt it, but anything is possible!). Lionspride you may have been Deadon but I don't think as a fan, parent or supporter of this program this is where I needed to be dragged in and displaying any dirty or clean laundry. That's what I refused to be part of. Now we need to look towards the future and see what happens. If this is your way of voicing your thoughts good for you and who am I to judge you but I cannot be drug or dragged into this type of of activity. The difference is this is not my life but the life of a kid, young man, player of the LMU basketball team. I'm grown and over the hill so no place for me to Judge when you start discussion about individuals livelyhoods etc... If this is what toots your horn, great but I'm sorry for RT but also look forward to the future. |
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Post by lionspride on Mar 13, 2008 1:04:04 GMT -5
Well, well, well....it looks like the letter writing campaign hit home and Lawton delivered. I think Lawton had a talk with Elena Bove, SVP of Student Affairs, who oversees Athletics among other student area departments. Bove got Lawton's message across to Husak and Husak is worried about his own job. He had to act. I just want to know where they are getting the cash to pull this off. I give the administration all the credit in the world on this, but that credit is temporary. Full credit will be extended when they have announced a replacement. It better be a very experienced, big name that costs over $350,000 = $400,000. Few is making $400,000. We need to make a statement here. Oh, I just have to throw this one in for all those on this board who are not a fan of mine and think I do not know anything about basketball. LIONSPRIDE brought his "A" game to this board and followed through with a couple of letters to the administration. Everything I say is based on facts and circumstances when talking with current players, their parents, and LMU administration (Lawton and the AD). For those of you like lmutex, Dead3man, alert2, and others that excuse my postings as ridiculous or "all fluff and no stuff", think again and recognize. I apologize to the others on this board for the boasting but these guys took big time swipes at me and I continued to take it. In the end, I was DEADon. Thanks to ironlion for the shout out of my wish coming true. However, the wish is not complete. Husak and and the administration needs to come through with a big name. They have already made a huge commitment (eating 2 years of RT's contract). Let's don't half@ss it. Let's get it right. Do it once and do it right this time. Lawton listened, Lawton delivered (the cash), and Lawton is serious about winning. I hope Husak can make it happen now that he has the cash. No excuses. Lost in this is Rodney Tention. The guy was very honorable and is a nice guy (2 times that I have spoken directly with him). His recruiting strategy was the down fall and his player rotations this year never stopped. I wish Rodney and his family the best. I am hopeful, that Rodney will definitely land on his feet. Maybe he even goes back to UofA with Lute as an assistant. Who knows, maybe Gore-Man at USF hires him (I sincerely doubt it, but anything is possible!). Lionspride you may have been Deadon but I don't think as a fan, parent or supporter of this program this is where I needed to be dragged in and displaying any dirty or clean laundry. That's what I refused to be part of. Now we need to look towards the future and see what happens. If this is your way of voicing your thoughts good for you and who am I to judge you but I cannot be drug or dragged into this type of of activity. The difference is this is not my life but the life of a kid, young man, player of the LMU basketball team. I'm grown and over the hill so no place for me to Judge when you start discussion about individuals livelyhoods etc... If this is what toots your horn, great but I'm sorry for RT but also look forward to the future. Dead3man, thanks for the response. Sorry that your your AZ connection is lost. We look forward to an announcement of a proven coach that will get your son and the rest of our Lions to the promise land. I think this time we are seeing LMU make a huge commitment to the basketball program (eating 2 years of RT's contract) and I have some confidence that they will step it up on the new coaching selection. |
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Post by scoop on Mar 13, 2008 2:18:14 GMT -5
Who has gotten it done? It seems that since the last 5 coaches have been fired, either they were all bad hires or there is something bigger wrong at LMU. Maybe number 6 will be the savior, but i doubt it.
LMU is a coaches graveyard. If the university had the money to buyout another coach... why didnt they...hmmm use that money to bring the facility up. Do something proactive instead of reactive.
Some of you feel confident the answer is coming, as for me I am fearful we will have this same talk in 3 or 4 years
Lionspride, any thoughts on who that next coach should be? And dont say something silly like Mike Montgomery or Bob Knight. They would laugh in your face.
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Post by lmutex on Mar 13, 2008 10:46:32 GMT -5
First, let me say that I'm ok with the decision. I guess Husak saw the writing on the wall, and didn't want to go down with RT if things went (further) south next year.
Lionspride, your b*tching and moaning didn't result in anything. All you are is a clown, spouting off your self-importance on a message board. I would hope that you would use the same energy to help rebuild LMU's program as you did to besmirch it, but that would result of more of your brain-dead ramblings. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, as they say. Also, your treatment of dead3man on this board, who is a parent of a kid on this team, is appalling.
As for possible replacements, what big name would want to come here? The past two coaches haven't come close to completing a recruiting class.
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