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Post by crazycagegirl on Jan 31, 2009 16:51:14 GMT -5
I'm speechless.
So, as I sit here and watch Rodney Tention's current team get clobbered by UCLA with a 31-point deficit, I just can't help but think about Husak and his extremely poor choice of basketball coaches. The era of Aggers feels like a dream compared to the past 3 years. How can he possibly answer to the fact that the past two coaches he has given the opportunity to have failed! I think it's great that LMU has high standards when it comes to upholding a positive Jesuit image (which Coach Good apparently hinders with his mouth - oops!), but I wonder just how much that depletes our options when it comes to recruiting players and coaches to our program?
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Post by lionsfan88 on Jan 31, 2009 17:50:58 GMT -5
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Post by zagsfanforlife on Jan 31, 2009 17:54:39 GMT -5
This julia pine must be an avid reader of the board because once a story comes out, she is right on top of it. And the anger that the fans share I am sure portrayed through this boards sentiment.
Husak is a dope for not caring about this though. I am starting to think you are right stonewall.
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Post by crazycagegirl on Jan 31, 2009 18:19:41 GMT -5
Alright Julia, where are you hiding?
"While some in the LMU community are angry about Bayno’s decision to take another job so quickly..."
I do believe she just might be referring to us!
Oh - and if you ARE, in fact, reading this, Julia, check your modifiers.
The following sentence is horribly incorrect as written:
"Bayno worked for the Trail Blazers for three years before taking the job at LMU as both an international scout and player development coach."
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Post by crazycagegirl on Jan 31, 2009 18:20:40 GMT -5
Husak is a dope for not caring about this though. I doubt Husak doesn't care. He's just trying to cover his ass. |
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Post by stonewall on Jan 31, 2009 18:21:30 GMT -5
Well the explanations for this chain of events could be very simple, or very complicated, but they don't make logical sense give the stories that we have been told to explain them.
At best, we haven't heard the whole story. At worst, we've been fed a cover story or a series of cover stories by one or both parties. Perhaps intended as a "cover-your-A" ^^ to avoid some form of embarrassment or perhaps to cover up something slightly more diabolical (??)
I sympathize with Husak to an extent, but he's stretching the rose-colored glasses "it's all Good" attitude to the extreme now which is affecting his credibility--as if he just wants something to go away so no one will ask "Hey that doesn't make sense--what's really going here?"
Anyway, it's all conspiracy theory speculation and as I said before I'm not sure how relevant it all is now. But just a shout out to the administration that there are people, a few anyway, that care and are paying attention.
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Post by iggyrocks on Jan 31, 2009 18:24:40 GMT -5
“Last I talked to [Bayno], he had indicated that the Trail Blazers would be interested in working with him again. However, he didn’t think he was quite ready and whatever he would do would be at a low-level,” said Athletics Director Dr. William Husak. “This is the first I am hearing of him taking the job, but I am happy for him and it’s great that he feels well enough to take it. Everybody has to work, and it is nice that the Trail Blazers have been kind enough to offer him that.” OMG our AD is a complete toolbag! This is terrible. |
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Post by crazycagegirl on Jan 31, 2009 18:26:05 GMT -5
True. And Zags, I bet lionspride is giving himself a hernia right now, waiting to get back on to post!
As for what you said, Stonewall: you are correct. I would hope that they take a hint from this board that people aren't as gullible as they would hope.
Then again, we don't have names attached to us, indicating how much money we are donating to the program, so they may not even care what we have to say.
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Post by zagsfanforlife on Jan 31, 2009 18:26:28 GMT -5
haha iggyrocks. Toolbag! thats classic
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Post by stonewall on Jan 31, 2009 18:52:24 GMT -5
"This is the first I am hearing of him taking the job, but I am happy for him and it’s great that he feels well enough to take it. Everybody has to work, and it is nice that the Trail Blazers have been kind enough to offer him that."
Being far less diplomatic than Husak (my reaction would be more like "WTF?") that response irked me as well. But that may be just Husak's way of saying "good riddance".
1. Bayno sings a sweet song to get the job
2. LMU takes chance on Bayno
3. Bayno works for a few months and then has a change of heart and disengages for an indefinite period of time.
4. AD is patient for a time but as he is now on the hot seat, ultimately pressures Bayno to return or get lost.
5. Bayno chooses the latter, as he has the option to return to his former, greener pastures...
6. ...thus making the AD look like a moron.
7. And yet the AD takes the high road with sympathetic comments about how everyone has to work.
Like I said, it COULD be as simple as that.
"we don't have names attached to us, indicating how much money we are donating to the program"
I believe that to be an insightful comment and also I bet why Tention got fired--some big $$ donors made some phone calls saying "hey you promised us this guy was gonna take us to the next level". Those same donors are likely irked by this as well and, being the businessmen that they are, will ultimately expect some accountability soon.
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Post by crazycagegirl on Jan 31, 2009 19:04:57 GMT -5
I believe that to be an insightful comment and also I bet why Tention got fired--some big $$ donors made some phone calls saying "hey you promised us this guy was gonna take us to the next level". Those same donors are likely irked by this as well and, being the businessmen that they are, will ultimately expect some accountability soon. So essentially, what it all comes down to is that the big donors are the ones pulling the strings for LMU Athletics....my family and I can make as much of a stink as we want about things we don't agree with, but if we pull out of donating (we all donate, every year), we're not putting as much of a dent in their pockets, so they would probably shrug it off and say, "We'll get the money elsewhere." |
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Post by ironlions on Jan 31, 2009 19:20:27 GMT -5
Both Bayno and Husak are pathetic. Bayno is a coward. I hope he thinks of all the players, recruits, fans, students, and alumni he quit on to go back to his cushy NBA assistant job. Have fun practicing with your pads on the young millionaires. I sure hope the players and coaches he put in place bring us success.
Go Lions
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Post by fanblade on Jan 31, 2009 19:24:42 GMT -5
I believe we are in for some more fireworks unfortunately.  I don't see fans, players, and donors being as blase as Bill and Bill. I wish we had more excitement on the court than we seem to have in the department offices. |
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Post by stillalion on Jan 31, 2009 20:58:24 GMT -5
So essentially, what it all comes down to is that the big donors are the ones pulling the strings for LMU Athletics....my family and I can make as much of a stink as we want about things we don't agree with, but if we pull out of donating (we all donate, every year), we're not putting as much of a dent in their pockets, so they would probably shrug it off and say, "We'll get the money elsewhere." Crazygirl - I feel like you just had an epiphany. To answer your question: YES! Everyone who feels out in the dark as to what the athletic department is doing just needs to donate A LOT of $. You will get personal Husak updates over lunch whenever you like if you are writing checks with at least 4 zeros on the end. Heck, Husak will let you pick the next coach if your check is big enough. Even in our little end of the kiddie pool - money talks and bull---- walks. |
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Post by rebelfan on Jan 31, 2009 21:08:24 GMT -5
Guys,
Whether right or wrong, I think it's just a case of taking a job for all the wrong reasons.
Bayno is a gym rat. He loves to teach. He loves the hands on. In his position with Portland, that is exactly what he did. I know he loved his job when he was with Portland.
So why the decision to jump back into the D1 ranks?
Early on, I don't think he could have even if it's what he wanted. There was too much off a stigma attached to his dismissal. Drinking, allegations from the NCAA, a semi-nasty battle with UNLV upon his dismissal, relative mediocrity at UNLV.... Not only did it the logistics of college basketball leave a bad taste in his mouth, but he was "blackballed" in a sense. Obviously, he won't be making his way back into the college game again after this debacle with LMU.
As time passed, he overcame his drinking problem, he had some peace with his job at Portland, time allowed some of those other negatives to dissipate a bit. So the path back to college was there. It's a path he chose to take. Hindsight being 20/20, obviously he should have stayed put with Portland. But I think that he had a lot of people telling him he was ready for the college game again, that he paid his dues. That it was where he belonged and he'd be a great fit. I know he heard this from a lot of people. I know I believed it in my heart. I really did. He obviously respected the opinion of these people in high standing. I think the more he heard it, the more he believed it. He'd been hearing it for a few years. I think he grew very comfortable with the idea. And I think he believed in his heart that he was ready for it.
Then comes the cold, harsh reality of the day to day grind. It's not about hard work - he's as hard of a worker as you'll find. It's about finding your place in life. As time went by at LMU, it all hit him. The things he didn't like, the things he couldn't handle.
LMU didn't put alot of pressure on him to win. He could have stayed and done a mediocre job and he would have been safe. But that's not his style. It would have killed him and I know he would think that LMU deserves more than that.
It's not about money. Though it may look like he played LMU for a sucker, that's just not the case. Anybody that knows Bayno knows he's as generous as they get.
The whole thing really sucks. But there wasn't something calculated. It's just unfortunate that LMU and the fans, players and their families have to take the brunt of this situation.
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I don't see fans, players, and donors being as blase as Bill and Bill. I wish we had more excitement on the court than we seem to have in the department offices.