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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on Mar 1, 2009 3:02:50 GMT -5
I had TiVoed the ST. Mary's game and just finished watching the Prime Ticket telecast. I was shocked to see no mention of Omar Samhan and Lucas Walker's thuggery.
Early in the second half, Samhan threw a couple of jabs at Kevin Young as the two went down court. The TV analyst noticed it, and then they ran a replay showing it. Later in the half, Samhan mixed it up again with the Lions after a scramble that resulted in a jump ball.
More deplorable was the play with 40 seconds left when Lucas Walker purposely fell on top of Young at midcourt. The announcers called him out on it, and they showed two replays. When Max Good sees it, he will be absolutely livid. Walker could of seriously injured Young. The Detroit Pistons' Bad Boys squad would be proud of Walker's cheap shot. And then the cameras showed Walker on the bench laughing about it with his teammates.
Young deserves a tip of the cap for keeping his cool and not reacting in a hostile manner. I hope Coach Good sends the tape to the WCC office. Will the commissioner suspend the player's for a game? No, because that will be the third round of the WCC Tournament, and the conference desperately wants the Gaels to make the NCAA Tournament so the WCC will get a bigger paycheck.
It's too bad Samhan and Walker got away with their cheap shots tonight. However, my retribution will be to have the CBS camera on their campus in Moraga on Selection Sunday, and to see the reaction on these two joker's faces when they DO NOT get selected. Revenge will be sweet, indeed!
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Post by tomgyrl31 on Mar 1, 2009 3:40:03 GMT -5
With all due respect, Omar and Lucas have played a lot more contentious games against a lot tougher competition than LMU all year long. Diamon and Omar have gotten mugged all season under the net without getting calls from far more physical players from Gonzaga, Utah State and Kent State, to name a few and we've never been accused of being thugs by anyone, let alone LMU! That's just ridiculous.
You know, I can appreciate your post, but did it ever occur to you that Young was chirping and running his mouth at Lucas and Omar all night long? Did you honestly think that Senior Walker and our biggest guy on the team, Samhan were going to be disrespected by an underclassman popping off and talking smack? Come on. Your team is extremely young and perhaps were taught a lesson tonight. Lucas did not fall on Young with all his weight, he pinned Young on the ground...watch it again and yes, while you can construe it as thuggery, Lucas was sending a message. So was Yusef Smith when he bumped Rob Jones at USD earlier this year. Don't mess with the Gaels. Our team is far from being thugs.....sorry you lost, but that's just not the case.
Props to Young....my post has proven its point. When he fouled out, he went to the bench and cried like a little baby. Good luck to LMU in Vegas.
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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on Mar 1, 2009 3:53:17 GMT -5
Wow, this had nothing to do with losing. I am a supporter of the WCC, and was thrilled when we had three teams last year.
The post had to do with the fact that I lost a ton of respect for the Gaels tonight. Your team is up 13 at halftime, and with any focus should have been up by more. Bennett seems to have lost control of his team. He took Walker out after the "fall" because I'm sure he knows he got away with one.
And when you say "Young was chirping and running his mouth at Lucas and Omar all night long", did it occur to you that Omar's missed punches were thrown at Young after a tip-in less than a minute into the second half...after Young had sat out the final 18:31 of the first half in foul trouble! So don't say Young was chirping all night when he had been on the court for less than three minutes.
For one night, Samhan and Walker were out of control. It's a shame they had to resort to such shenanigans. It only sullies your team's reputation, of which you must be leery otherwise how would you have come across this post so quickly? Your team won, but it's too bad you have to win that way.
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Post by zagsfanforlife on Mar 1, 2009 3:53:53 GMT -5
That was kind of a classless post tomgyrl... you try to talk sh*t the whole post and then say "Good luck" at the end? That seems pretty classless.
I would rather have 10 guys on a team that are willing to cry and have enough passion to cry then 10 guys who are not. Not trying to bash your fans too much, but from what I have seen and read on your Godisagael board and now your post, I have lost a lot of respect for Gael fans. The way you guys bashed Pargo for "tripping" and "purposely taking down MIlls" was once again CLASSLESS.
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Post by tomgyrl31 on Mar 1, 2009 4:06:33 GMT -5
Wow, a Zag fan, on another team's board no less, using the term classless......hello, kettle you're black. I do wish LMU luck at the tourney.....in fact, I wish all WCC teams luck sans Gonzaga just like the rest of the WCC posters, I just have the brass to post it.
thx4leavinjimlynam, I appreciate your honesty. I just saw there was a lot of tempers flaring and Young seemed to be in the mix. Best of luck in Vegas, I DO wish LMU lots of luck.
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Post by smc4 on Mar 1, 2009 6:11:34 GMT -5
Saint Mary's has a lot of attitude problems. I was completely shocked by the thuggish acts on and off the court by their players. I am glad I am not the only one who noticed it. For being an "elite" team it was obvious from my seat that they were cursing out our players and at one point began shouting into the stands at our fans! The coach Randy Bennett was right there and did nothing to stop his players from shouting into the stands and taunting our fans. It was jaw-dropping. Did anyone see else see this? Totally classless and bizarre. I never really expected something like that from Saint Mary's. I guess a little fame can go to their heads. The coach should be ashamed.
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Post by sunkenlions on Mar 1, 2009 9:29:06 GMT -5
M.V.L. they are not an "elite" program by any means, they have one future NBA player, other than that are slightly above average at best and will only go downwards from here as most teams do when they have a lack of discipline and a bunch of mental cases.
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Post by crazycagegirl on Mar 1, 2009 10:15:28 GMT -5
wow, MLV, that's very interesting....unfortunately, I was told that the alumni were told not to say anything to the team or the coach about 5 minutes into the game.
They should have left the benches where they were last year. The switch has done nothing but defeat the purpose of the Young Alum section -- especially when they have to fight fans of the away team for their season ticket seats and get harassed by them.
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Post by ironlions on Mar 1, 2009 12:21:45 GMT -5
I felt like crying having to look at Lucas' haircut.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Mar 1, 2009 12:48:54 GMT -5
Sorry I missed the game. Sounds like much more went on than shows up in the box score. (Or is it the "boxing" score?)
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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on Mar 1, 2009 13:00:54 GMT -5
M.V.L., glad to see it was apparent from the stands, too. The announcers commented a few different times that Samhan better keep his composure because his team needs him and he can't afford to get kicked out and suspended. For unbiased TV broadcasters to be saying that shows how ridiculous he was acting. And both announcers called out Walker for his cheap shot. Like I said before, not only has St. Mary's lost my respect, it is a shame the WCC won't take action because they don't want the Gaels to have negative publicity since they want them in the NCAA Tournament.
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Post by stonewall on Mar 1, 2009 13:18:52 GMT -5
Regardless, if Kevin Young needed incentive to get into the gym this summer he's got it now, right?
And while St. Mary's is by far the superior team--props to them for that--I'll be shocked if they make the tourney.
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Post by lambdachi1988lion on Mar 1, 2009 13:37:49 GMT -5
Check out this post by a classy gael on godisagael
Rahill wrote: I know this is wrong, but I loved it when, after a LMU freshman was screaming in Lucas's face after a dunk, on the defensive end Carlin took the opportunity to fall hard on top him for no real reason other than to tell the SOB that we're the Gaels and we don't take any $$!$ from anyone. It was great Gael/Aussie basketball. One thing I've learned after watching these Aussie kids is that they will not back down from anyone and will play tough. The TV guys were upset about it but I thought it was one of the highlights of the last 25 years of SMC basketball.
Lucas, with that one play you should have your number retired.
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Post by lambdachi1988lion on Mar 1, 2009 13:38:18 GMT -5
Luckly I responded and there were some good gaels on there as well
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Post by crazycagegirl on Mar 1, 2009 14:46:11 GMT -5
Please humor us with your response as well as those of the other Gaels fans who apparently backed you up!
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