Turnovers Everywhere

[waterboy]

I was told that there was some shots of me and the gang on TV at the UCI game. So I decided to reveiw the tivo'd game to see what I looked like on TV.

I became engaged in the game and have a different perspective on the loss after reveiwing it.

Substitution was not a big factor in our loss...it was turnovers...turnovers and more turnovers. The subs and the team in general did a decent job of stopping the Anteaters, but every time we stole the ball, pulled an offensive rebound, or blocked a shot, our gaurds (primarily) would lose the ball, either by misdribbling, going too fast before they had ball control, forcing shots and getting blocked or simply bad passes. Over and Over our runs would be thrawrted by a turn over. Several times we turned the ball over 3 to 4 times in a row. This happened in the first half as well as the second half.

The coach's focus on a point guard recruit shows me that the coach understood this was a week point on this years team. Vernon, Larry and JD have to protect the ball and get it to the players doing the play!

Now that I see it, this was the same reason we lost the 2 games in Montana. We would get momentum over and over again only to destroy it with a bad pass, a mis-dribble, or a bad decsiion to do it alone only to have the ball stolen. Turn Overs!! We stop those we will have a boat load of wins this year.!!

Keep it up, and we will be one frustrated fan base.
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[ironlions]

It becomes clear why we recruited Ireland a true PG. One of the SGs has to figure about how not to turn the ball over.

[uncurselmu]

Nov 20, 2009 15:20:18 GMT -5 @ironlions said:

It becomes clear why we recruited Ireland a true PG. One of the SGs has to figure about how not to turn the ball over.

I think out of the guards we have two have shown the most promise here, although one of them is more seasoned for the responsibility.

JD-Loads of experience in his freshman year, he usually makes good decisions with the ball and is a pure team player. He looks to spread the ball around the floor, and you rarely see him jack up a dumb shot. While he may not be a pure pg by any means, he has the right temperament to be trusted with the ball. I also think the coach trusts him a great deal as well. He's sort of a choice by default.

Given- Although he definitely has some flash to his game I think that he will develop into a floor leader simply because of his vision on the floor, and his control with the ball. Whether its driving in for a layup, or pushing the ball up the floor he seems to have a good vision for where not only his teammates are, but the defenders. Teel has a habit of trying to go through players, I haven't seen the same flaw in given.

Admittedly he's a freshman, and we haven't seen much of him, which is why JD is going to be very important in asserting control of the floor and getting the ball to the right players.

[stonewall]

This exact phenomenon was one of the main reason watching games last year so painful: watching the guards try to take it to the hole against quadruple coverage and of course, coughing it up. Seems not much has changed in that regard this season. Makes you think all a team would have to do for a sure win against us is press press press.

[LIONS90045]

uncurselmu - you are right on!
JD plays under control. His "flaw," if you will, is that he is a streak shooter - his game runs hot and cold. Against UCI, he took considered shots as he is not required to lead scoring this year and that helped a lot. He made a nice put back from under the basket on an airball and generally played under control the whole game. Got his double and doesn't run risky plays - as you noted.
He fed Given on the breakaway near the end of the first half, which Given completed under contention - Given seems to have a habit of doing this with his great body control.
We need to see more of Given - he is fun to watch on the court!

[irishlion]

The only problem with only looking at the actual TO number - it doesn't take into account the dumba** possessions. Those may show as a missed shot instead of a TO. And we have a LARGE number of those possessions. JD seems to really be settling down, as is Vernon. Both were pressing poor decisions early, as was Kevin.

Life will be good when we can keep TO's to 10-12 a game, and lost possessions to less than 5. When we move the ball and get the right shot, we are very effective. And we have to recognize who's hot.

Saturday - JD shoots 2 three's in a row. He's hot. So next possession down ... someone else takes a three. (Not Viney - I'll never complain about that). But the smart move is to see if JD's got another one in him. Once again - its the example of the GET MINE attitude that is starting to disappear - but still pokes its head up every now and then.

Another example - Viney had 28 points with 7 minutes left to go in the UCIgame. He DID NOT TOUCH THE BALL for 5 straight minutes. Not "shoot" - didn't touch it. Good mentioned it on the radio interview before USC. That's just dumb basketball. His teammates should have been looking to get it to him, instead of forcing their own stuff.

They will learn. But those possessions are more painful to me than the TO's. And invisible in the stat line.