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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on Jan 21, 2024 11:41:21 GMT -5
Free-throw shooting saved us, 24 out of 26.
We had very few open shots in the second half. I don’t know if Pepperdine was playing better D, or if we just were lacking offensive execution. There were multiple times Thiemann was being guarded by a guard down low and we weren’t giving him the ball, so that’s just lack of awareness or maybe a lack of trust in Thiemann, I don’t know.
Also we had a 13-point halftime lead and we had outrebounded them by nine. In the second half we got out rebounded by 10.
Lastly, it was concerning to see we only had nine players dressed, including Carney. And Hill’s hand was wrapped again after not being wrapped at one of the recent games. Don’t know if he had a setback.
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Post by nbdlion22 on Jan 21, 2024 12:52:42 GMT -5
Free-throw shooting saved us, 24 out of 26. We had very few open shots in the second half. I don’t know if Pepperdine was playing better D, or if we just were lacking offensive execution. There were multiple times Thiemann was being guarded by a guard down low and we weren’t giving him the ball, so that’s just lack of awareness or maybe a lack of trust in Thiemann, I don’t know. Also we had a 13-point halftime lead and we had outrebounded them by nine. In the second half we got out rebounded by 10. Lastly, it was concerning to see we only had nine players dressed, including Carney. And Hill’s hand was wrapped again after not being wrapped at one of the recent games. Don’t know if he had a setback. Probably a lack of trust in Thiemann. Big has the worst I’ve seen in about twenty years. Can’t grab a contested rebound. Can’t finish in traffic it’s actually quite sad. Such a waste of size and body.
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Post by boothlion on Jan 21, 2024 15:12:25 GMT -5
NBD if you are giving me 20 years. I’d take Lars over Max Craig. Also, in the overall scheme, we have not had consecutive winning seasons in 32 years. Since Jay Hillock. So I would like to see us break that streak this season. This! So much this! Red line, circle, do the whole thing. Cam as Conference player of the year candidate was a nice piece. Border line NIT bid, nice piece. Recognized recruiting class, nice piece. Beating Gonzaga and St. Mary's (& BYU) step in the right direction. But fundamentally we need this: back to back winning seasons. And then some back to back 20 win seasons and then consistency.
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Post by lmu2015 on Jan 21, 2024 16:41:07 GMT -5
Agree with the above points - this year has been a bit of a let down but we are not Kentucky, we are not a good enough program to be upset after winning a game. I would assume there aren't too many programs that haven't had back to back winning seasons this century, so let us just get that accomplishment before we are disappointed about not winning games by enough points. If Stan leads us to a .500 record or better he is definitively our best coach in the last 30 years (if you define how good a coach is by the ability to win games - which if you disagree with I'd love to hear a better metric). Regardless of how much we feel like we are underachieving this year, our program is still trending in the right direction.
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Post by nbdlion22 on Jan 22, 2024 0:15:11 GMT -5
So nobody on this board thinks it’s weird how the team celebrates every win like they’ve won the national championship and the proceeds to post it on X/Twitter?
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Post by ALioninWinter on Jan 22, 2024 3:02:49 GMT -5
I have no issue with celebrating wins but I agree those post game celebrations seem a bit over the top. But I’m not condemning the team for a little partying. Let’s be grateful for every win and let’s not begrudge the players their enthusiastic celebrations. The question isn’t one of whether or not we or the team should celebrate ANY win. Instead, the question to ask is, “Are we (or the team, or the coach, or the administrators) satisfied with just any win? Personally I’m not at all satisfied with the way this season has gone. Yes, I celebrate their wins but they should be doing better. Celebrate all you want Saturday night; but come Monday morning I expect 110% effort from the guys to get better.
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Post by nbdlion22 on Jan 22, 2024 8:13:33 GMT -5
I have no issue with celebrating wins but I agree those post game celebrations seem a bit over the top. But I’m not condemning the team for a little partying. Let’s be grateful for every win and let’s not begrudge the players their enthusiastic celebrations. The question isn’t one of whether or not we or the team should celebrate ANY win. Instead, the question to ask is, “Are we (or the team, or the coach, or the administrators) satisfied with just any win? Personally I’m not at all satisfied with the way this season has gone. Yes, I celebrate their wins but they should be doing better. Celebrate all you want Saturday night; but come Monday morning I expect 110% effort from the guys to get better. Thats fair.
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Post by dedicatedlionfan on Jan 22, 2024 9:18:10 GMT -5
Love the optimism nbd! Definitely baby steps in the right direction! I don’t think we can expect progression from every single game, however there are bright spots that we see. It could be worse, like San Diego and for that matter Pepperdine! Just hope that we eventually attract quality players that can get us over the actual post season hump!
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Post by nbdlion22 on Jan 22, 2024 9:26:02 GMT -5
Love the optimism nbd! Definitely baby steps in the right direction! I don’t think we can expect progression from every single game, however there are bright spots that we see. It could be worse, like San Diego and for that matter Pepperdine! Just hope that we eventually attract quality players that can get us over the actual post season hump! Im working on it lol. It's been 20+ years of disappointment, Im sure we Lions fans can all understand the pessimism and frustration that has now unfortunately become the norm. Being critical of the program is really one of the few things we can actually control as fans.
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Post by golions1444 on Jan 22, 2024 22:55:14 GMT -5
So nobody on this board thinks it’s weird how the team celebrates every win like they’ve won the national championship and the proceeds to post it on X/Twitter? The celebration for a win that’s not a big upset or playoff game is a little ridiculous but whatever let the kids have fun and let Stan do his thing marketing the program. The only thing that drives me crazy is when the players post on social media their highlights and/or stats after a loss. Like come on guys, call me old fashioned and maybe I’m getting old but there should be no individual boasting about stats when you lost the game.
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Post by nbdlion22 on Jan 23, 2024 10:34:43 GMT -5
So nobody on this board thinks it’s weird how the team celebrates every win like they’ve won the national championship and the proceeds to post it on X/Twitter? The celebration for a win that’s not a big upset or playoff game is a little ridiculous but whatever let the kids have fun and let Stan do his thing marketing the program. The only thing that drives me crazy is when the players post on social media their highlights and/or stats after a loss. Like come on guys, call me old fashioned and maybe I’m getting old but there should be no individual boasting about stats when you lost the game. Couldn't agree more. THIS right here is what I was talking about.
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Post by cs17 on Jan 23, 2024 15:53:25 GMT -5
Stan now has more wins at Pepperdine in just THREE attempts (3 for 3) than Dunlap, Good, Tention and Aggers COMBINED.
So continue to wallow, or acknowledge that Stan’s energy and ‘marketing’ has been a big net positive overall for this program. Yes, they have underachieved this year. But how amazing it is to say that, instead of not having an iota of hope.
You may not like players posting personal stats regardless of W/L; but that’s just the portal game in college sports nowadays. NIL is everything. Nothing is sacred. All 300+ teams do it.
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Post by ALioninWinter on Jan 23, 2024 19:18:22 GMT -5
The celebration for a win that’s not a big upset or playoff game is a little ridiculous but whatever let the kids have fun and let Stan do his thing marketing the program. The only thing that drives me crazy is when the players post on social media their highlights and/or stats after a loss. Like come on guys, call me old fashioned and maybe I’m getting old but there should be no individual boasting about stats when you lost the game. Couldn't agree more. THIS right here is what I was talking about. I don’t follow the players’ social media accounts, so I wasn’t aware of them posting/bragging about their individual “achievements.” If that’s what they’re doing, then shame on them. I know it’s a different era but the players need to have a team focus.
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Post by thebluff on Jan 23, 2024 20:51:04 GMT -5
I think the comments about personal achievements show that some of us may be a little out of touch on the current compelxtity of basketball and modern day social media.
Often guys are not posting these themselves but rather reposting from their supports, basketball media companies, or even the own teams page.
If someone is supporting you, there is nothing wrong with reposting it. It’s a sign of respect for the supporter. We can’t expect our players to be silent and social media robots.
Obviously the teams social media account is pretty active. I follow every player and have never seen a player try to put their own accomplishments above the group, in a win or a lose.
Some players on the team get more coverage form The public than others. I mean we only have one NBA caliber player too. So.
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Post by golions1444 on Jan 24, 2024 15:55:01 GMT -5
Fair points all around.
Stan having more wins in Malibu than the last like 20 years is pretty crazy!
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