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Post by lambdachi1988lion on Mar 1, 2009 14:50:25 GMT -5
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Post by ironlions on Mar 1, 2009 16:21:58 GMT -5
The refs lost control of the game from the very start. A lot of this non sense would never occurred if we had a half way decent bunch of refs. I'm sure a lot of the Gaels shenanigans stem from the frustration they have realizing their hopes of getting in the NCAA disappeared when Mills went down.
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Post by samolocal on Mar 1, 2009 18:16:50 GMT -5
I've been going to SMC-LMU games since it was "Loyola". Saw some especially great games in the run-and-gun era. Last night was sad. The ten or so screaming whackos in the first row behind the SMC bench should have been tossed early (yeah, two were led away in handcuffs towards the end of the game). LMU obviously came out playing rough, led by the classy, calm leadership of Coach Good. When the typical WCC refs let the game get out of hand, what happened with Samhan and Walker was inevitable. Were there more than 50 students there last night? Don't think so.
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Post by zagsfanforlife on Mar 1, 2009 18:47:13 GMT -5
 Alert!!! Lucas Walker's haircut looks like a flying skunk landed on Walkers head, experienced with radioactive hair solution, and then died while still on his head.
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Post by lovethosedawgs on Mar 1, 2009 18:55:52 GMT -5
I would much rather be the decent mid-major being bounced from the NIT than be a perennially horrific team that doesn't even belong playing in Division I basketball.
After watching LMU last night, I can certainly see why poor Coach Bayno had a mental breakdown while coaching this West-Coast version of NJIT basketball.
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Post by lovethosedawgs on Mar 1, 2009 18:58:47 GMT -5
Direct quote from your board. As for heckling all evening, I'm sure it was rampant. You could drive a semi-truck through Gersten last night and still hear a pin drop because no one showed up. So, I am sure that the trash talk was clearly heard by everyone - the players, the coaches, the announcers, and especially the 50 LMU fans there. Poor showing on the Gaels, no doubt. We should never bring ourselves down the the sub-par level of a basement team and its fan base ever again. We Gaels are definitely better than that. 50 LMU students? Not only is Moraga Valley State College math pretty sh*tty but it looks like you all don't do much about reading comprehension either!  Get lost and enjoy watching your team of thugs and mowhawk sporting clowns flame out in NIT. Bye. I have seen more student attend a Sacramento State Bees (or Hornets or something) game. Yes, that commuter CSU with no school spirit and a team up to par with LMU. It truly looked between about 50 to 80. |
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Post by zagsfanforlife on Mar 1, 2009 19:07:25 GMT -5
When LMU takes a massive dump on the Gaels next year and the year after will that mean SMC does not belong n D 1 basketball?
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Post by crazycagegirl on Mar 1, 2009 19:36:29 GMT -5
I will admit, I was aghast when I saw how few people were at the game last night. It was NEVER that bad when I was a student....that is really a shame, LMU. Even if we win two games, that doesn't do a darn thing for all the kids out partying at 5pm?! Thank you to all the Roar kids who actually DID show up.
I'm just chuckling to myself at how horrible they claim our fans are....Um. First off, the Young Alum section has been there for - what - three years now? I think that the Athletic Department made a really poor move by putting the visiting team bench in front of the young alums. Did they honestly expect the most vicious group of fans to sit idly by? However, the visiting fan crowd makes it sound like the alumni had no right to be there...umm.....check their ticket stubs and shut the hell up.
Second of all....the kid who was hauled off apparently was being belligerent and wasn't supposed to be with the alumni. Shame on him for making us look bad.
Next...the Alumni section has been the EXACT same way for...hmm....has to be going on 10 years now. What is the final remnants of the CAGE sits there. They said the same type of stuff when sitting in the student section. They've been saying the same type of stuff since they got their own special section. NOW, suddenly, because Athletics decided to put the bench right in front of them, they are harassed at every game for doing the stuff they've been doing for 10 years? That's unfair. Bad move, Athletics. BAD MOVE. Either move the alums, disband the alumni section, or move the bench. The SOLE reason of putting together the Young Alums section was to provide heckling and taunting from both sides. I don't think it's possible for ANYONE to deny that.
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Post by crazycagegirl on Mar 1, 2009 19:41:31 GMT -5
BTW, thanks for sharing the link with us, lambda.  I've never ever heard of our team playing dirty. I must have missed something as I watched the game at my friend's bar. It looked to me like our players were playing basketball, not being "dirty" and "classless." |
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Post by fanblade on Mar 1, 2009 19:57:16 GMT -5
An ugly game trifecta, on the court, off the court, in cyberspace! M.V.L., glad to see it was apparent from the stands, too. The announcers commented a few different times that Samhan better keep his composure because his team needs him and he can't afford to get kicked out and suspended. For unbiased TV broadcasters to be saying that shows how ridiculous he was acting. And both announcers called out Walker for his cheap shot. Like I said before, not only has St. Mary's lost my respect, it is a shame the WCC won't take action because they don't want the Gaels to have negative publicity since they want them in the NCAA Tournament. I watched too as multiple players of their team shouted and pointed into our stands. I've never seen something like that before and it reflects very badly on the coaching staff who seemed unaware and unconcerned. Clearly there is a lack of discipline there that if not controlled could catch up to them. ironlions is probably right about how their frustration caused them to lash out constantly in the game. They certainly weren't impressing at-large evaluators in the arena or on TV with those antics. I would much rather be the decent mid-major being bounced from the NIT than be a perennially horrific team that doesn't even belong playing in Division I basketball. After watching LMU last night, I can certainly see why poor Coach Bayno had a mental breakdown while coaching this West-Coast version of NJIT basketball. Welcome to the Lions Den. Have anything to actually say other than lazy uninspired taunts?  Thanks cagegirl for clarifying the situation about the "handcuffed students." I went over to Godisagael and the rumors being tossed around there make it seem like tear gas was launched into our alumni section. The kids who were kicked out were actually LMU students and non-students who were friends with one of the bench players at Saint Mary's. When security asked them to leave (because they just appeared at the end of the game to yell at their friend on the bench) they became belligerent and mouthy. One of the non-students tried to grab the security guard and was hauled out in cuffs. Not quite the spin that some who were not actually there are running with. |
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Post by crazycagegirl on Mar 1, 2009 20:02:23 GMT -5
Oh my goodness! Those fans over there say WE are classless...and then we read the crap they talk about on their forum....WOW. If anything, it appears as though we have far more class than some of them could ever hope to muster up.
PS
NP. I read that too and got the info from Dennis. Thanks, Dennis!
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Post by lambdachi1988lion on Mar 1, 2009 21:15:58 GMT -5
The actual student attendance was far more than 50, but that is either here nor there. I think part of the problem is that it was a 5 o'clock game on a saturday before midterms, so many students were actually studying before going out during the night. Despite that, I have seen a drop off in student attendance since the Pepperdine Game. I think the majority of our fans knew that that was a winnable game, and we went and played one of our worst games of the year. The Notre Dame game shows that this Universities students and alumni will support this team, but I think that game and hoe this season turned out really demoralized them.
Despite how this season has turned out, we actually had very decent attendance for how our team was playing. Right before WCC play we were 4th in attendance only behind Gonzaga, USD, and SMC. I even made a nice little comparison chart on this site because I was proud of our fans. I am really proud of my fellow students, who have stuck with this team and supported them. These past couple of games, they have been witness to a team coming together and even getting a couple of nice victories. I know next year student support will be back because will vastly improved.
I think the funniest thing about this whole thing is how the Gael fan's are reacting to this situation. It as if they have never hear taunting and heckling before in their life. Those were not student behind the Gael's bench but young Alumni who obviously care about and support their team. We could use more like them. Fan will be fans, who cares if they were yelling at your team, that is their job. What I take great offense at is when the Gael's players decided to act without sportsmanship. Honestly a little shoving and even jawing is fine, that is part of the game, but what Hunter did was completely uncalled for. The fact that the gael's take pride in is even more disgraceful. Even he wanted to show Kevin who's who then he should have made a nice play on the basketball court, instead he takes a CHEAP shot by falling on our player, which could have easily hurt him. I honestly have no idea how you could support someone on your team doing that.
It is very humorous to me that the Gael's think because they have had one or two nice season they are part of basketball's elite. They are losing 68 percent of their scoring next year if Patty leaves, which is looking more and more likely. All this with no remarkable talent coming in. Meanwhile we are gaining the BEST recruit in the WCC in Given, a great presence in the post in Edgar, 2 four star prospects in Drew Viney and Larry Davis, as well as Ashley Hamilton, Tim and Terron.
I would easily take a bet that the Lions will fare better next season than they Gaels.
Had to get some thoughts out. I have 2 more years to enjoy these guys in school, then the rest of my life as an alumni. I love my Lions and I can't wait for the WCC tournament and the rest of the season.
Go Lions
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Post by LIONS90045 on Mar 1, 2009 21:51:50 GMT -5
Thanks Lambdachi
I agree next year will be a good one. And I agree the 5 pm start probably threw some people off - I missed the game due to a commitment and I generally wouldn't miss an LMU game for any reason. Did not know LMU would move the game up for TV.
Thanks Ironlion - Too bad the refs let the game get our of hand. They did a poor job on Thursday also.
Regarding our "bad" fans, our security is a bit toothless in my opinion. When people in front row seats - the young Alums I guess - stand the entire game despite many reasonable pleas from fans behind them to sit down and security says its not their responsiblilty to have fans sit down to protect paying attendees enjoyment of the game, I call this toothless. By the way, the guards do restrict access to the real seats this year by checking tickets (kudos) and do tell folks standing on the aisle between the bleachers and seats to find a seat (more kudos). However, the security guards themselves stand and lean on the rails blocking views of bleacher fans (Boo!) and a poor double standard.
And I agree with someone who said they need to move the team benches back to the other side of the court - I can see Max Good's facial reactions better from that view and be safe from his projectiles as well.
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Post by crazycagegirl on Mar 1, 2009 22:09:49 GMT -5
wrschnicke, the young alums paid for their seats. If they pay for those seats and are season ticket holders...and have been for multiple years, they should be allowed to do what they want. They've been standing up for however many years the Young Alumni section has been around. Why is it a problem now? It's the Young Alum section. There are plenty other seats to buy tickets for. I think this needs to be clarified, though, when people call in to buy tickets in that section. Those in the Ticket Office should warn that the fans stand up during the game.
The game was moved to 5pm because that was the time slot they were allotted for TV. Happens all the time.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Mar 1, 2009 22:32:25 GMT -5
I still think it's rude to stand and block others' views but I am old school and not that much into today's "casual rudeness" culture. It is a shame where our civilization is heading. Why not offer a standing section like they did at the Globe Theatre for Shakespeares' plays and let those who choose be there? Could have saved money on the seats in that case.
And I understand $$ for TV. Thanks for the tips.
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