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Post by seeingthewholefield on Feb 13, 2022 11:16:30 GMT -5
So, I spoke to the Alumni Association folks. It seems Omicron torpedoed most of their fan programming for this season, and they've already turned their attention to the 22-23 year (perhaps there's a lesson in there...). They're going to try to host more events, including building an out-of-LA network, and will be using LinkedIn as their medium for alumni. Look out for a LinkedIn group for alumni. Additionally, he's open to creating a link between alumni and a new era of CAGE or ROAR, and will help facilitate, if anyone here is interested. If so, backchannel me and we can discuss.
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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on Feb 13, 2022 12:37:43 GMT -5
Regarding radio, if you pull up kxlu.com on your phone you can listen to games anywhere.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Feb 13, 2022 12:49:10 GMT -5
“Build it and they will come.” You need a winning team to really build a fan base.
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Post by dedicatedlionfan on Feb 15, 2022 1:14:45 GMT -5
Regarding radio, if you pull up kxlu.com on your phone you can listen to games anywhere. Yes but not the radio station! With all the tuition and the cost, you think we at least can afford to have a radio signal that can reach Southern California.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Feb 15, 2022 12:12:07 GMT -5
These college station are low power broadcasts intended to reach the campus area and nearby locations only. This is because most colleges broadcast on the same frequencies. Too big a reach free m one college broadcast would interfere with others. That’s why it’s local only
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Post by lmucrazycagegirl on Jan 26, 2023 23:47:00 GMT -5
I know I'm bringing this conversation back a year later, but for what it's worth, I'm a high school teacher and it's depressing to see how much COVID has changed student interaction. At the high school level, students just plain don't know how to interact with sports. It's depressing. Clearly it isn't an issue everywhere, but it seems to be a real problem at LMU and in places where there isn't a solid student section culture. The second a crazy student section gets controlled by the school, it loses its spark. I believe that CAGE was started by a bunch of kids who loved basketball who just went to all the games together. It wasn't run by Athletics, officially. When it became the official student section, most of the students switched over to ROAR because they could drink and party before the game. I think it's going to take the students learning again how to cheer and be excited about the sports, and that has to stem all the way back to high school. It will probably be another four years before kids actually understand what it's like to be an active participant in the spectating at a game. In the meantime, I myself try to get myself to local games up in NorCal with other alumni. I've even mentioned trying to get the teams from my school to go to the games since we're a D1 school. It's going to take a long time to get back to what we were even 4 years ago. In the meantime, it would help to get more TV time, so we can sit in a bar and have them play our games and be rowdy in public with the games.
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Post by golions1444 on Jan 27, 2023 0:50:03 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why it’s not as simple as hiring and getting 2-3 student section leaders that lead all the chants and stuff??
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Post by slblions08 on Jan 27, 2023 12:19:51 GMT -5
In my high school teacher opinion, Covid just highlighted the issues rather than caused it. Gen Z is way too locked into their phones waiting for a social media moment rather than enjoying anything. They’re too busy on Tik Tok, Be Reel or Instagram to notice anything. Remember, LMU has very high qualification requirements and so these are very studious kids who need to learn how to have fun, but they live in fear of being judged, crippling self-induced anxiety , and then they’re commanded by the algorithm generals of the phone. Very challenging to them. Plus, many of the chants that we used to say are offensive so they will be banned. One misstep and canceled for life lol.
Of course there’s the other Gen Z who hates everybody and everything, that will hurl anti-Semitic things with ease and recite Andrew Tate’s beliefs at will, so you get both a crowd who will neither cheer or boo for many reasons.
Our suburban high school doesn’t know yet how to make kids fun without crossing the line so they just show the product and let them be in their phones.
Look I am a millennial but this gen might as well be from another century… oh wait they are! Maybe there’s a smart individual at LMU paid a lot of money in charge of fan engagement that’s in e the 2020s not the 90s.
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Post by dedicatedlionfan on Jan 27, 2023 14:15:55 GMT -5
I was a strong member of the ROAR back in the day, but it slowly faded when our team slowly started to have losing after losing season. I think it is going to take time to grow the student fan base as well as success in the sense of student engagement does not happen overnight. I’m surprised that they haven’t done giveaways like Bobbleheads, or scarves, or jersey giveaways.
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Post by golions1444 on Jan 27, 2023 15:15:59 GMT -5
In my high school teacher opinion, Covid just highlighted the issues rather than caused it. Gen Z is way too locked into their phones waiting for a social media moment rather than enjoying anything. They’re too busy on Tik Tok, Be Reel or Instagram to notice anything. Remember, LMU has very high qualification requirements and so these are very studious kids who need to learn how to have fun, but they live in fear of being judged, crippling self-induced anxiety , and then they’re commanded by the algorithm generals of the phone. Very challenging to them. Plus, many of the chants that we used to say are offensive so they will be banned. One misstep and canceled for life lol. Of course there’s the other Gen Z who hates everybody and everything, that will hurl anti-Semitic things with ease and recite Andrew Tate’s beliefs at will, so you get both a crowd who will neither cheer or boo for many reasons. Our suburban high school doesn’t know yet how to make kids fun without crossing the line so they just show the product and let them be in their phones. Look I am a millennial but this gen might as well be from another century… oh wait they are! Maybe there’s a smart individual at LMU paid a lot of money in charge of fan engagement that’s in e the 2020s not the 90s. I hear what you’re saying but there are plenty of mid major schools with the same generation of students that pack their gym and are standing and jumping up and down for their team. The San Francisco chant from the roar days would def get us canceled today. Lol
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Post by lmu2008 on Jan 28, 2023 10:20:21 GMT -5
Can someone tell me why it’s not as simple as hiring and getting 2-3 student section leaders that lead all the chants and stuff?? I like this idea. Since we have our student section split into two, we should have 2-3 hired cheer leaders per side.
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Post by frankieboy on Jan 28, 2023 13:28:59 GMT -5
I know I'm bringing this conversation back a year later, but for what it's worth, I'm a high school teacher and it's depressing to see how much COVID has changed student interaction. At the high school level, students just plain don't know how to interact with sports. It's depressing. Clearly it isn't an issue everywhere, but it seems to be a real problem at LMU and in places where there isn't a solid student section culture. The second a crazy student section gets controlled by the school, it loses its spark. I believe that CAGE was started by a bunch of kids who loved basketball who just went to all the games together. It wasn't run by Athletics, officially. When it became the official student section, most of the students switched over to ROAR because they could drink and party before the game. I think it's going to take the students learning again how to cheer and be excited about the sports, and that has to stem all the way back to high school. It will probably be another four years before kids actually understand what it's like to be an active participant in the spectating at a game. In the meantime, I myself try to get myself to local games up in NorCal with other alumni. I've even mentioned trying to get the teams from my school to go to the games since we're a D1 school. It's going to take a long time to get back to what we were even 4 years ago. In the meantime, it would help to get more TV time, so we can sit in a bar and have them play our games and be rowdy in public with the games. Not true about HS student sections-if you've ever been to a Trinity League/Mission League football or basketball game (many LMU Kids went to Catholic HS's where the sports teams matter a lot), or (for public school fans a game at Thousand Oaks or Aliso Nigul/Capo Valley in OC for basketball) they are a lot more alive than ever. The students know what to do it. Years of losing and perceived lack of admin support is why there isn't the student support you see at St. Mary's or Gonzaga (much less BYU). Win games, make the tournament-and the fan base comes back. The Gonzaga win is a big step in the right direction.
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Post by frankieboy on Jan 28, 2023 13:42:32 GMT -5
I know I'm bringing this conversation back a year later, but for what it's worth, I'm a high school teacher and it's depressing to see how much COVID has changed student interaction. At the high school level, students just plain don't know how to interact with sports. It's depressing. Clearly it isn't an issue everywhere, but it seems to be a real problem at LMU and in places where there isn't a solid student section culture. The second a crazy student section gets controlled by the school, it loses its spark. I believe that CAGE was started by a bunch of kids who loved basketball who just went to all the games together. It wasn't run by Athletics, officially. When it became the official student section, most of the students switched over to ROAR because they could drink and party before the game. I think it's going to take the students learning again how to cheer and be excited about the sports, and that has to stem all the way back to high school. It will probably be another four years before kids actually understand what it's like to be an active participant in the spectating at a game. In the meantime, I myself try to get myself to local games up in NorCal with other alumni. I've even mentioned trying to get the teams from my school to go to the games since we're a D1 school. It's going to take a long time to get back to what we were even 4 years ago. In the meantime, it would help to get more TV time, so we can sit in a bar and have them play our games and be rowdy in public with the games. Not true about HS student sections-if you've ever been to a Trinity League/Mission League football or basketball game (many LMU Kids went to Catholic HS's where the sports teams matter a lot), or (for public school fans a game at Thousand Oaks or Aliso Niguel/Capo Valley in OC for basketball) they are a lot more alive than ever. The students know what to do it. Years of losing and perceived lack of admin support is why there isn't the student support you see at St. Mary's or Gonzaga (much less BYU). Win games, make the tournament-and the fan base comes back. The Gonzaga win is a big step in the right direction. Unlike in the past, the current administration/AD gets it.
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Post by frankieboy on Jan 28, 2023 13:46:57 GMT -5
I would agree - there is definitely an element in administrations at many universities that is gung-ho for stamping out anything that reeks of "fun" from the student experience out of fear of legal liability and/or being against current campus moral/ethical codes. If you read up on what they've done at places like Stanford you'd be appalled. I suspect a lot of the same is going on at LMU. It's sad- the saying "all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" was right 30 years ago, and is really right today.
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