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Post by lionspride on Jun 10, 2008 13:06:17 GMT -5
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Post by ironlions on Jun 10, 2008 13:12:19 GMT -5
Max: Heard he was looking at Harvard too
Walker: Was working out for Cal Poly
Deadwiler: NAU possiable
Vaugh: Commited to USF
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Post by ironlions on Jun 11, 2008 11:57:51 GMT -5
Wendell just committed to Portland State.
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Post by gdawg on Jun 14, 2008 11:53:30 GMT -5
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Post by lionspride on Jun 16, 2008 12:03:37 GMT -5
gdawg, thanks for the interview.
Deadwiler and Dead3man seem to be pinning all the blame of the program on the coaches not talking with boosters. I'm confused. I realize that RT and Co. was quite, but the coaching staff showed up at booster events. Besides, there are not that many basketball boosters at LMU (unfortunately...hopefully that changes). I don't think that boosters ended Deadwiler's career at LMU.
I think Deadwiler and where ever he is getting guidance from, needs to look in the mirror sometimes. Throwing out excuses of a) I should have sat out freshman year, but I was asked to play, b) I was the youngest freshman on the team, c) one more year will develop my body for the best......DOES NOT CUT IT. Deadwiler had a choice to red-shirt.....he didn't.....he knew he would have very limited playing time freshman year with Worthy, Ziri, Demo, Counts, etc. on that 2006-2007 squad (a returning squad that was favored by many to take the WCC championship). Sounds like a spin zone to me. Some people don't learn their lessons. "Smart" was quoted in the interview. I think it should have been "Slow" or maybe "still in denial".....look in the mirror, Deadwiler....you will find the answers from within. Good luck with that. If I were you, I would have just taken the Presidential Scholarship from LMU and grabbed the quality education and cut your losses on the court. That piece of paper would have carried your professional business career. I sincerely wish you the best with the rest of your college years.
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Post by lmuhistorian on Jun 16, 2008 21:17:16 GMT -5
I like How D2 and D3 came before a D1 school. For being so smart the decision to leave was so dumb. You would have played this year for sure and with the Sr. year left he would play back up to Larry Davis and end a good career as a Lion. Besides, I really wanted to see that slasher type game come into play under Bayno. Shawn can play D1 he just has do develop that Youthful Body he has.
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Post by dedicatedlionfan on Jun 19, 2008 11:08:24 GMT -5
I have to agree with lionspride! I knew Deadwiler very well, (actually lived with him my freshmen year) and although he did help somewhat his first year, he woulod have been much better redshirting his first year! I wish him all the best, where ever he ends up!
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Post by lionspride on Jun 26, 2008 16:13:23 GMT -5
It is being reported that Max Craig has chosen Columbia over Cornell. I updated my first post to reflect this latest news. Congratulations to Max. Get the education and start your professional business career. People like Deadwiler should follow in Max's thinking.
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Post by gdawg on Jun 26, 2008 18:10:43 GMT -5
It is being reported that Max Craig has chosen Columbia over Cornell. I updated my first post to reflect this latest news. Congratulations to Max. Get the education and start your professional business career. People like Deadwiler should follow in Max's thinking. Lionspride you seem like you have an ax to grind with the amount of negative attention you seem to give to some players or can I say one player. Its really not worth the time of day to rip players. I've met the kid and he makes no excuses but beleive me Booster's do run a program. I know seeing I'm a ASU booster. We have a lot of input especially when it comes down to if were going to make that donation this year or not. I don't know how LMU works but it does matter. If you don't have anything good to say then just shut up. |
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Post by lmutex on Jun 26, 2008 18:14:17 GMT -5
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Amen to that.
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Post by lionspride on Jun 26, 2008 19:01:44 GMT -5
It is being reported that Max Craig has chosen Columbia over Cornell. I updated my first post to reflect this latest news. Congratulations to Max. Get the education and start your professional business career. People like Deadwiler should follow in Max's thinking. Lionspride you seem like you have an ax to grind with the amount of negative attention you seem to give to some players or can I say one player. Its really not worth the time of day to rip players. I've met the kid and he makes no excuses but beleive me Booster's do run a program. I know seeing I'm a ASU booster. We have a lot of input especially when it comes down to if were going to make that donation this year or not. I don't know how LMU works but it does matter. If you don't have anything good to say then just shut up. gdawg, don't mean to slam down during the off-season, but I'm entitled to my opinion. Certain players will not have a future past college. They will not play in Europe or any other country. Might as well get a solid education. Max's decision was the best one could do.....raise the education reputation from LMU to Columbia and still play ball...but make education the PRIORITY when you know you have no skills beyond college. People like deadwiler continue not to look in the mirror and have retrospection. I think he cannot get a better education than LMU. And on the booster side of things, I WISH LMU BOOSTERS had that much power as you say ASU boosters have. LMU Athletic boosters are relatively weak. The largest single donation in years has been about $2M by R. Chad Dreier, Chairman, CEO, and President of The Ryland Group, a leading public real estate and mortgage company. When $2M is the largest donation and that was a couple of years ago, that is not much. Just to give you a prespective, LMU athletic donations were in approximately the $200,000 range last year. As a whole the LMU alumni only gave $2M+ collectively last year to the University. BOOSTERS at LMU do not rule the Athletics program. If that was the case, we would not have so many damn years of consecutive losing seasons. Also, why then has Husak had such a long tenure. Do you think hard core boosters with pockets would put up with miss after miss for all these years. GET A CLUE gdawg and stop sticking up for deadwiler. LMU in the WCC conference is really no different than anyone else (exception maybe Gonzaga...but I am not even convienced of that). Look at USF last year and the DEVOTED and MONEY PUMPING ALUMNI there (donations to their athletics is much greater than ours at LMU) could not take care of the "lowest hanging fruit of them all" in USF's AD Debbie Goreman. She has survived after complete OUTRAGE by boosters who took it to the president and then to the board of trustees. What happened. NOTHING. They have threaten not to donate. They have stop donating. What happens.....NOTHING. There is not enough money to affect the upper university administration. USF and WCC does not have the # of alumni graduating each year to make a huge difference. Public universities have 5 to 10 times the amount of graduates that WCC schools have. The more population, the greater then donation pool. |
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Post by gdawg on Jun 26, 2008 23:32:43 GMT -5
The more I read lionspride the more I laugh. You really hate Deadwiler. A kids dream is a kids dream. Let it go. He can get an education anywhere its what he makes out of it but you really have an ax to grind so take it somewhere else. This is a quality kid with great character. I'm glad he's not mine because me and you would have a face to face. Opinion is one thing, beating someone down is another.
Thanks for the real boosters numbers or lionsfund, the money is the decision makers.
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Post by lionspride on Jun 27, 2008 11:49:58 GMT -5
jlion: Let's tackle your responses one by one.... 1) The $177k number you throw out there is from last year 2007-2008 summer drive.....not 2006. (evidence provided in the below e-mail link). You are right in that last year set a record, but that was $177k. Those numbers generated by the LionsFund are primarily from ex-LMU athletes and alumni. That $177k is not cash received only during the summer. These sometimes are pledges made by individuals that promise to send their donation during the year. There are even payment plan options throughout the year to stagger the donation amount. 2007-2008 Lions Fund Summer Drive - $177k www.lmu.edu/PageFactory.aspx?PageID=258572) LMU is in the midst of raising $380 million by October 2011. It's called the Right Place. Right Time. The Campaign for LMU. This campaign was extended another 3 years. It will have been going on for about 6 to 7 years in 2011. That equates to LMU having received about $55M to $65M a year in donations. The VAST VAST VAST MAJORITY of that comes from huge FOUNDATIONS that have money to give. Example, the Leavey Foundation. If you go to many well-know Catholic universities in California, you will see that the Leavey Foundation has made its mark. USC has a Leavey Center, Santa Clara has a Leavey School of Business and Leavey Events Center, Georgetown has a Leavey Center. The Leavey Foundation has tons of money and concentrates on giving to Catholic universities (exception being USC because the husband and wife met at USC) Below is a little insight in the Leavey foundation.....We at LMU have been benefactors of the Leavey Campus, Leavey Center (where the new Athletic offices will be housed), Leavey Center for Study of Los Angeles www.the-tidings.com/2004/0116/cardaward.htm Look under Kathleen McCarthy.... These huge foundations that are spreading their money around like HANNON FOUNDATION (Hannon Apartments, new Hannon Library) and LEAVEY FOUNDATION make up the vast majority of the annual giving. The LMU alumni last year (LMU fiscal year - June 1, 2007 through May 31, 2008) only gave $2M. Pick up the Vista Magazine Summer 2008 edition and you will find that number. What I am getting to with all these numbers and examples is that LMU does not have athletic boosters that make or brake the direction of the program. Sure, some letters and whispers in Bill Husak's ear may guide some of the decisions, but MONEY is not behind it. Outside of the LMU Alumni, I don't think we have that big of a following. I can think of about 2 people that have season tickets that are not LMU alumni and have no connection with the school. If you alumni are giving about $2M a year to the UNIVERSITY AS A WHOLE, that money is dimes (still very important dimes, however, and I encourage everyone to donate to the LionsFund as well webcommunity.lmu.edu/makeagift.aspx) next to what the foundations give. No foundation to my knowledge is influencing the decision of LMU Athletics. Me and you can only wish that someone would drop enough money in the administrations face to excelerate the LMU Athletics program. CONCLUSION: ALMUNI/BOOSTERS are NOT MAKING DECISIONS OR INFLUENCING ATHLETIC DECISIONS AT LMU. THEREFORE, DEADWILER's COMMENTS ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT AND NOT FOUNDED IN FACTS. HE NEEDS TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND RE-EVALUATE WHY RT WAS CANNED. THE ALUMNI AND BOOSTERS ARE NOT TO BE BLAMED FOR THAT. THE PLAYERS AND COACHES DID NOT GET IT DONE. |
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Post by gdawg on Jun 27, 2008 12:28:00 GMT -5
Again, you look in the mirror. Spend some time on you.
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Post by lionspride on Jun 27, 2008 13:04:21 GMT -5
I do look in the mirror gdawg....6'0", 175lb and I have a LMU polo shirt and LMU hat on and am look'in ready for November 21, 2008. ;D
Glad to see deadwiler is not supporting the colors anymore. His intelligence lacks the LMU educational reputation.
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