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Post by vadlion on May 1, 2015 14:17:05 GMT -5
I agree the WCC is definitely a guard driven league. Mornar is gone after this season. He is our only rim protector this year. Looking for another player with some size to block shots and rebound. We will see if Herman develops into that, but he played most of last year away from the basket.
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Post by husky on May 1, 2015 14:33:04 GMT -5
True that. a Top 5 in the WCC would be real nice, a solid improvement. We would then be poised to do even better the next year. Alot depends on their transition from JC's to Div 1.
I strongly rejected Coach Dunlap's allusions to a shortfall in either academics or "citizenship" under Good; however when he emphasis the importance of those disciplines I take him at his word so we should have no problems there. We have heard his minions refer to the "Dunlap system"; hopefully it wasn't the slow deliberate offensive and one dimension defense we saw too much of last year, With these guys we can hopefully be treated to the "up tempo offence and pressure defense" also purported to be his style.
Is the team going to Spain or somewhere else this summer? So many new faces they could really use something like that to begin bonding. Six months seems too far.
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Post by LIONS90045 on May 1, 2015 14:59:32 GMT -5
Bob Huggins of West Virginia plays a very physical style of basketball. His recruits fit his system so we can expect Tauch to handle his own on the floor. These recruits are all athletic basketball players and like others I'm expecting a physical tough nosed team next season. We don't have great length, but we have guys that compensate with strength and skills. Encouraging.
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Post by LIONS90045 on May 1, 2015 15:00:19 GMT -5
We have one more slot to fill - maybe we can land that 6'10" 3 star?
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Post by slblions08 on May 1, 2015 20:08:37 GMT -5
But compete how? We dont need bigger guys to compete in the WCC. This lineup i think will do just fine. If we want to compete on the nation stage and be a top 25 team? Sure I think we do need to add height. But baby steps. Lets finish in the top 4 in the WCC, get better recruits each year and then we can talk about competing on a national stage. Very few programs become national contenders overnight. Especially when you finish near the bottom of the WCC the year before. Outside of Gonzaga, and Maybe BYU and Pepp, all other teams in the WCC are within reach next year. I am looking at 2016-2017 as being "our year". If we can make improvements this year, finish top 5 in the WCC, I will be very happy. The following year, most of these JC guys become seniors. Here we go again. Gonzaga is in a different class. BYU got rid of their center because they have talent coming back ot on. They might compete with the Zags. Pepperdine, unless they regress or due to injury, should be better to. Then you have St. Mary's who has a great coach. Then there's Portland who has experience and size and if Mornar is the center then we have none. That's your top 5. I agree that the middle is more open with Santa Clara the only mediocre that fits the bill at 6. Anybody from San Fran San Diego Pacific and LMU should be a toss up. If we finished 7th that would be improvement. The problem is that we've seen Dunlap get severely out coached by the best coaches in the league. In order to finish top 5 you basically have to go undefeated against the paupers in the league and steal some from the upper echelon. This is a team about 2016, I agree with that. However that's a make or break with only one impact freshman right now.
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Post by slblions08 on May 1, 2015 20:21:46 GMT -5
I will say Tuach is a nice player and with Tutu is probably the headliners. Good gets for a last place team. The team will be more athletic all around even though we lose Evan and Deji.
I expect a Brown Tuach Haney Mornar to be the core with Humphries Tutu Herman Jacko also crunch time players. Johnson Hayes and McClendon will have to beat guys out in practice.
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Post by ADG'99 on May 1, 2015 21:11:41 GMT -5
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Post by loyalion on May 1, 2015 21:53:26 GMT -5
But compete how? We dont need bigger guys to compete in the WCC. This lineup i think will do just fine. If we want to compete on the nation stage and be a top 25 team? Sure I think we do need to add height. But baby steps. Lets finish in the top 4 in the WCC, get better recruits each year and then we can talk about competing on a national stage. Very few programs become national contenders overnight. Especially when you finish near the bottom of the WCC the year before. Outside of Gonzaga, and Maybe BYU and Pepp, all other teams in the WCC are within reach next year. I am looking at 2016-2017 as being "our year". If we can make improvements this year, finish top 5 in the WCC, I will be very happy. The following year, most of these JC guys become seniors. Here we go again. Gonzaga is in a different class. BYU got rid of their center because they have talent coming back ot on. They might compete with the Zags. Pepperdine, unless they regress or due to injury, should be better to. Then you have St. Mary's who has a great coach. Then there's Portland who has experience and size and if Mornar is the center then we have none. That's your top 5. I agree that the middle is more open with Santa Clara the only mediocre that fits the bill at 6. Anybody from San Fran San Diego Pacific and LMU should be a toss up. If we finished 7th that would be improvement. The problem is that we've seen Dunlap get severely out coached by the best coaches in the league. In order to finish top 5 you basically have to go undefeated against the paupers in the league and steal some from the upper echelon. This is a team about 2016, I agree with that. However that's a make or break with only one impact freshman right now. Would love to know who St Mary's has on their ROSTER that makes you concede 4th place to them. I believe they lose their whole starting 5. Brandon brown will play much more than tutu next year. Book that. Outside of Gonzaga, BYU and Pepp, i stand by my original statement. You're a Dunlap hater. We get it. But to concede 4th and 5th place to a team that lost their starting 5, has decent role players coming back, and Portland who underachieves each and every year with possibly the worst coach in the league in Eric Reveno, i think you're off base.
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Post by longtimelionfan on May 1, 2015 23:51:38 GMT -5
None of us know but I too disagree with SLB's assessment of this year's recruiting class. First, Brown appears to be the most heralded to me. As a JUCO freshman he took his team to its first ever JUCO Divsion 2 National Championship; was the MVP of the Championship Tournament and runner-up for National DII Player of the Year. This year he takes his team back to National Championship Tournament; team finished third - losing in semis by 2 points - and is named National Player of the Year. Hard to do more than he did at Phoenix College.
Everything I've read says Shamar Johnson is a large MAN who is physically tough with nimble talented feet and soft hands. He consistently played at a high level against taller players who've been recruited to D1 four year schools. I think he starts, is likely our leading rebounder and a double digit average scorer.
Jacko is big, fast, quick and very athletic.
McClendon and Tutu are both well regarded freshman who are fast, quick and highly competitive.
Haney was highly ranked out of high school - top 125 player - excellent shooter.
Tuach appears to be well put together, tough and relentless.
LMU's team on paper is unquestionably far better than this year's team. Now, let's see what they look like on the court including the development of the returners. Again, on paper this roster compares well with every other WCC team not named Gonzaga. Of course, what matters is not how they compare on paper but on the court.
Watching this play out for real should be fun.
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Post by slblions08 on May 2, 2015 16:05:47 GMT -5
Would love to know who St Mary's has on their ROSTER that makes you concede 4th place to them. I believe they lose their whole starting 5. Brandon brown will play much more than tutu next year. Book that. Outside of Gonzaga, BYU and Pepp, i stand by my original statement. You're a Dunlap hater. We get it. But to concede 4th and 5th place to a team that lost their starting 5, has decent role players coming back, and Portland who underachieves each and every year with possibly the worst coach in the league in Eric Reveno, i think you're off base. Am I Dunlap hater? Maybe to Dunlap's son I am. I am a realist. St. Mary's hasn't finished outside of the top 4 in the past 10 years. That has to do with coaching, recruiting etc. Sure, his recruiting takes a little hit because of the sanctions but to discount a decade of history is ridiculous. That's a program with two alums playing in the NBA playoffs right now. I would hope that nobody every concedes anything but lets temper our enthusiasm. Remember, we were excited for something like 5-7th last year and we just got last place and an un-watchable team. I am ready to say that on paper, there is no excuse for anything less than 7th place. The team is overall better and these are Dunlap's guys. Plus most of the team is above 20 years old. Dunlap will impress me if he can hurdle Portland and Santa Clara into 5th place. As for the recruiting, I am wondering if we are done. Verbal Commits lists Sherman Vernon as a scholarship player. That would add us to 13. Is that the limit? 1)Mornar, 2)Humphries, 3)Hayes, 4)Tutu, 5)McClendon, 6)Johnson, 7)Jocko, 8)Tuach, 9)Spiers, 10)Haney, 11)Brown, 12)Herman, 13)Vernon Guards Brown, Hayes, Tutu, Humphries Wings Tuach, Haney, McClendon, Spiers Frontcourt Mornar, Johnson, Jocko, Herman, Vernon
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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on May 2, 2015 18:17:46 GMT -5
Vernon is not a scholarship player, unless he was here last season on his own dime and was provided a scholarship after the season, which seems highly doubtful.
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Post by loyalion on May 2, 2015 18:26:27 GMT -5
Vernon not a scholarship player
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Post by LIONS90045 on May 2, 2015 18:59:47 GMT -5
While we're talking about Sherman, my impression is that he can play at the D1 level. He is 6'7" and has bulk and a nice shot from what I see in warm ups I believe he came from Air Force Academy where he must have been on the team - hence his Redshirt status I doubt he is on scholarship however so we have another recruit to sign
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Post by craft on May 3, 2015 1:08:33 GMT -5
Here's a little clip of Buay Tuach getting a rebound and dunk. I thought I'd post the link since there's not much about Buay online.
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Post by LIONS90045 on May 3, 2015 10:16:41 GMT -5
Thanks - his 3 YouTube clips are also about 10 seconds each - he looks really athletic!
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