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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 10, 2009 21:38:21 GMT -5
I haven't mastered the quote function but hx4leavinjimlynam wrote: Well, Academy of the Arts was 4-22 last year and lost by an average score of 81-60. As much as I hate to post this, LMU was 3-28 last year and lost by an average score of 71.4-55.7. Our schedules were in no way comparable so this is a meaningless set of statistics. Isn't it?
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 10, 2009 21:48:23 GMT -5
Plus we had a banner recruiting year and will have the injured guys back - Academy of the Arts probably did not do as well.
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Post by thx4leavinjimlynam on Jul 10, 2009 23:34:28 GMT -5
We need to learn how to finish and win games. LMU has no business overlooking anyone.
I agree that with the talent we have coming in, we should win a handful of these games. But to be honest, this schedule does not look that easy:
11/13, 14, 15: at Montana State, vs. Boise St. and vs. North Dakota -I will be pleased if we win one of these games, two would be great
11/18 UCI, not a cakewalk
11/21 @ USC, I would love to win this game, but obviously that would be a defining moment for the program
11/24 @ Tulsa, this will be a very difficult game
11/28 UCSB, this won't be easy
12/2 Academy of Arts, win
12/5 @ Wyoming, very tough environment, would be a major accomplishment to win in Laramie
12/10 Montana, they are tough, but at home we need to win this game to boost confidence
12/12 @ Notre Dame, just like USC, it would be great, but can't count on it
12/19 Cal State Bakersfield, two years ago they crushed us by 30-some points at their place. I know we beat them last year in Gersten, and we should again.
12/22 Long Beach State, Monson has talent, another tough game
12/27 @ Sac State, we are better than they are, but we may not have a road win up to this point, so it would be essential to win this game to give us "road confidence" heading into league
12/30 Seattle, revenge game, we win this one
1/3 @ Bakersfield, as mentioned, they crushed us by 30-some points in Bakersfield. I do think we win the home game in December, but may struggle in Bakersfield. As with Sac State, we need to win this road game heading into conference.
I truly think only Academy of Arts, Seattle, and Bakersfield (home game) are locked-in victories. Out of 16 games, seven at home, hopefully we go 5-2. Two neutral games, a split would be good. Of the seven road games, I think only the Sac State and Bakersfield games are games we "should" win. Winning any of the other five would be a great step for Good and the players. If we do only go 2-5 on the road, our record entering league would be 8-8.
If we are above .500, that means we have won some tough games and will be ready for the WCC. With so many "new" players on the roster, I think .500 will be solid. I, of course, would love for our record to be in the 12-4 range, but I feel that is asking a lot. I hope six months from now you can all throw my 8-8 prediction in my face.
Hopefully we gel faster than I anticipate, but let's not bash this schedule. I think Good knows what he is doing, and this should work out well for LMU.
Go Lions!
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 11, 2009 23:17:07 GMT -5
Harangody likes what he sees in pick up games at ND re next years team. Will be a tough game in South Bend and Harangody is a gentleman as well as tough competitor on the court. Hamilton was out for the year after last year's game at Gersten. Let the best team win! sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4319646&name=katz_andy
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 13, 2009 21:53:52 GMT -5
Here is the first installment of my analysis on our 2009-2010 schedule: Opponent: UC Irvine, member Big West Conference. 2008-2009 record 12-18 Key wins: Pepperdine, Bakersfield 2x, UC Riverside 2x, Cal Poly 2x Key losses: UCSB 2x,UC Davis 3x (we lost to them in opening tournament at Iowa State). Grads: 2 seniors: Bland, 6,8" 235 forward; Lauer, 6'1" Guard. (Stats not available) Recriuts: 3 guards highest rating 77; other two 40. One power forward - Losousky rated 70. Transfers (both from Butte College): 6'8" PF rated 85, 6'9" C rated 40. Overall assessment - a wash. Predict - win for LMU
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 13, 2009 22:16:09 GMT -5
Second installment: Tulsa Overall 25-11, Conference USA 12-4. Key wins: LMU 79-45 @lmu. Key losses: Memphis 55-54 @ home, 63-37 @memphis. NIT Tournament: Beat Northwestern 68-55. Lost to Auburn 74-55. Grads:Reese 6'5", 215 (Westchester Grad) - 6.4/3.1 ppg/rpg; Mitchell, 6'9", 240. 3.0/2.5. Key recruits: Medder, PG, 6'1", 190, Rated 90, #14 PG category; Pope, SG #73, 6'6", 195, Rated 86; Maduka, PF, 6'10", 190, rated 83. Transfers: Haralson, SG, 6'4", 190, Unrated. Predict: Loss for LMU (but good experience!). Tulsa has a proud athletic tradition, former member of Missouri Valley Conference in their glory years (with University of Cincinnati in Oscar Robertson years). Tough opponent in any sport!
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 13, 2009 22:16:51 GMT -5
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 15, 2009 0:05:34 GMT -5
Wyoming Cowboys 2008-2009 record 19-14 Beat LMU 72-65 @gersten Key wins: SD State @ home – 83-79 UNLV @ home – 77-68 Cal State Bakersfield @ home 84-58 Key losses: UCLA 113-62 @ucla Boise State 86-85 @ Boise SD State 71-60 @ SD State Lost in first round in College Basketball Invitational 62-55 to Northeastern Graduates: Ewing, 18.5 ppg; Ogiri, 14.4 ppg; Johnson, 13.1 ppg. Recruits: Amath M'Baye, SF, 6-8, 205, rating 87, SF #51 Michael Dietz, SF, 6-7, Rating 82, SF #101 (not on roster) Daylen Harrison, SF, 6-6, 220, rating 78, SF #155 78 Desmar Jackson, SG, 6-5, 190, rating 70, SG #294 Transfers: Thomas Manzano, SG, 6-3, 190, rating 90 (not on roster) Predict: LMU in close contest. Rationale - lost key scorers from 2008-2009 season. Lots of talent remaining on team. Home team advantage will make for a tough game. ;D
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Post by longtimelionfan on Jul 15, 2009 12:04:20 GMT -5
alert2, I disagree with your characterization that the release is "already making excuses", I don't read it that way at all. I think it is merely stating facts to manage expectations because of the substantial roster turnover and upgrade. Coach Good didn't say he expects to take his lumps. To me, the release makes no promises nor excuses and in that manner it follows the "underpromise and over deliver" theory. I fully expect that internally this team and coaching staff have high expectations but talk doesn't win games.
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Post by ironlions on Jul 15, 2009 17:19:47 GMT -5
I'm pretty happy about the schedule. We need to win some games and get confidence up after last year.
However we have no business playing Academy of Arts.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 16, 2009 10:18:26 GMT -5
Notre Dame Recruits Big East Conference 21-15 record Beat LMU 65-54 @gersten Seniors Lost: Ryan Ayers, 6-7, 210, G, 11.1 ppg Zach Hillesland, 6-9, 228, PF, 4.6 ppg Kyle McAlarney, 6-0, 195, G, 15.0 ppg Luke Zeller, 6-11, 245, F/C, 4.9 ppg Key Returnees: Luke Harangody, C, 23.3 ppg, 11.8 rbds pg Tory Jackson, 10.6 ppg Recruits Jack Cooley, PF, 6-8, 210, PF #33, rating 90 Joey Brooks, SF, 6-5, 205, SF #29, rating 89 Mike Broghammer, PF, 6-8, 215, PF #62, rating 88 Thomas Knight, C, 6-8, 260, C #45, rating 86 Key wins: Indiana, Texas, Georgetown, Seton Hall, Louisville, New Mexico, Kentucky Key losses: North Carolina 102-87, Syracuse 93-74, Louisville (OT), Connecticut 2x, Villanova, West Virginia Postseason play: NIT, beat UAB, New Mexico, Kentucky, lost to Penn State Prediction: although ND lost lots of scoring and senior leadership, return of Harangody and Jackson with lots of other return talent and several good recruits make ND a favorite to beat LMU at South Bend. Level of competition ND is used to playing makes them a tough match up for most teams in the US. Loss for LMU.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 16, 2009 10:20:46 GMT -5
so far my takes are pretty well aligned with the assessment of thx4leavinjimlynam
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Post by LIONS90045 on Jul 27, 2009 11:14:05 GMT -5
Here is one person's take on Gonzaga this year. Projecting one Freshman to start with Canadians Arop and Olynyk, two recruits from Canada who played well in under-19 games this summer, as key reserves. Gonzaga will still be very competitive - Sacre, Gray, and Goodson had 90+ ratings as recruits.
By Ryan Feldman rfeldman@thehoopsreport.com
Sunday, July 26, 2009
Gonzaga Bulldogs Last Season: 28-6 (14-0) Key Losses: Josh Heytvelt, Jeremy Pargo, Austin Daye, Micah Downs Head Coach: Mark Few
Projected Starting Lineup PG: Demetri Goodson 5-11 So. SG: Steven Gray 6-5 Jr. SF: Matt Bouldin 6-5 Sr. PF: Sam Dower 6-9 Fr. PF C: Robert Sacre 7-0 So. C Key Reserves: Mangisto Arop 6-5 Fr. SF, Will Foster 7-5 Sr. C, Kelly Olynyk 6-10 Fr. SF
The 2009-10 Gonzaga Bulldogs may not be the same team Gonzaga fans are used to seeing over the last decade, but they still could be an NCAA tournament team. Not many teams can lose four of its top five scorers and still be considered a possible NCAA tournament team, but Mark Few has turned a formerly mid-major program into what is now a national college basketball powerhouse.
Back in March, Gonzaga got past Akron and Western Kentucky before falling to eventual national champion North Carolina in the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament. The Zags have had incredible success under Few, but they've yet to get over the hump and reach the Final Four. Unfortunatly, that is unlikely to happen this season, as they are in a sort of rebuilding year. But that doesn't mean the Zags can't still win the West Coast Conference title and reach their 12th straight NCAA tournament.
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Post by fanblade on Jul 30, 2009 19:00:55 GMT -5
A big question mark over most of the WCC. This will be an exciting OOC season to see how the different teams are living up to the hype or rather lack of hype.
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Post by LIONS90045 on Aug 3, 2009 21:03:49 GMT -5
No postings recently on any basketball news, so I thought I would offer this encouragement for us fans. Our last 2008-2009 game was March 6. Our first (exhibition) game in 2009-2010 is November 4. The good news is that 5 months have passed since our last game and only 3 months remain to our first game of the new season! The summer doldrums are almost over! Go Lions and let's hope our new players, Redshirts and returning injured players live up to our expectations. I find myself counting perhaps too much on our Freshmen to play at the college level from day one and have to temper my expectations a bit. It is evident from observing almost all players progression from Freshman year to Senior that potential is not all realized in the first year (sorry for the obvious comments here) - maybe our guys will exceed expectations.
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